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    Shadowlander
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    Default LOW FPS - Geforce 8700m GT SLI x2.

    I've tried everything. Ive spent days researching and hours reading and can't seem to figure out why I get such low frame rates playing Rift. I've tinkered with my nvidia control panel, turning things on or off or setting to application controlled. I've edited the cfg file. i've done everything. I cannot seem to get my system to pull more then 2-6fps in HK on low quality rendering. It drops down to a solid 3 during encounters. Im currently running Windows 7 64-bit on a 2.7ghz (overclocked to 3.4) core 2 duo extreme, 4 gig ram, and 2 geforce 8700m GT SLI's with half a gig combined memory. Shouldn't I be able to run Rift better then this? The most I have seen out of my system was 15fps and that was in a bare zone with hardly any trees, zoomed in quite a bit and not moving.

    If anyone has any suggestions, please throw them my way!

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    Shadowlander
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    I ran some benchmark testing and this is what ive come up with. Is my processor running at its max? I will note that I use a dell XPS M1730 and there is a common problem with the battery. Infact, my battery doesnt even work. Bios doesn't even recognize it. It's 100% dead. I run on AC power. In any case, i've changed the power settings long before (Unless I didn't get them all), but im already set to max performance settings.



    3DMark06 Testing -

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    Processor

    Processor - Intel Core 2 Extreme Processor X9000
    Processor clock - 598 MHz
    Physical / logical processors - 1 / 2
    # of cores -2
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    Graphics Card

    Graphics Card - NVIDIA GeForce 8700M GT
    Vendor - Dell Computer Corporation
    # of cards - 2
    SLI / CrossFire - On
    Memory - 256 MB
    Core clock - 625 MHz
    Memory clock - 800 MHz
    Driver name
    Driver version - 8.17.12.9610
    Driver status - FM Approved

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    General

    Operating system - 64-bit Windows 7 (6.1.7601)
    Motherboard - Dell Inc. 0KX412
    Memory - 4096 MB
    Module 1 - 2048 MB Hyundai Electronics 7 @ 400 MHz
    Module 2 - 2048 MB Hyundai Electronics 7 @ 400 MHz
    Hard drive model - 160GB WDC WD1600BJKT-75F4T0 ATA Device

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    Detailed Scores

    3DMark Score - 2732 3DMarks
    SM2.0 Score - 1166
    HDR/SM3.0 Score - 1554
    CPU Score - 517
    GraphicTest1 - Return To Proxycon - 9.74 FPS
    GraphicTest2 - Firefly Forest - 9.69 FPS
    CPU1 - Red Valley - 0.16 FPS
    CPU2 - Red Valley - 0.27 FPS
    HDR1 - Canyon Flight - 19.21 FPS
    HDR2 - Deep Freeze - 11.86 FPS

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    Settings

    Default settings used - Yes
    Width - 1280
    Height - 1024
    Anti-Aliasing - None
    Texture Filtering - Optimal
    VS Profile - 3_0
    PS Profile - 3_0





    PCMark 7 Testing -

    PCMark score 882

    Video playback and transcoding / Video playback 22.33 fps
    Video playback iteration 1 - 22.17 fps
    Video playback iteration 2 - 22.46 fps
    Video playback iteration 3 - 22.36 fps
    Video playback and transcoding / Video transcoding - downscaling 422.69 kB/s
    Video transcoding - downscaling iteration 1 - 419.35 kB/s
    Video transcoding - downscaling iteration 2 - 422.38 kB/s
    Video transcoding - downscaling iteration 3 - 426.34 kB/s
    System storage - gaming / System storage - gaming 3.94 MB/s
    System storage - gaming iteration 1 - 3.94 MB/s
    System storage - gaming iteration 2 - 3.94 MB/s
    System storage - gaming iteration 3 - 3.92 MB/s
    Graphics - DirectX 9 / Graphics - DirectX 910.66 fps
    Graphics - DirectX 9 iteration 1 - 10.62 fps
    Graphics - DirectX 9 iteration 2 - 10.59 fps
    Graphics - DirectX 9 iteration 3 - 10.77 fps
    Image manipulation / Image manipulation 1.75 Mpx/s
    Image manipulation iteration 1 - 1.75 Mpx/s
    Image manipulation iteration 2 - 1.74 Mpx/s
    Image manipulation iteration 3 - 1.75 Mpx/s
    System storage - importing pictures / System storage - importing pictures 5.32 MB/s
    System storage - importing pictures iteration 1 - 5.36 MB/s
    System storage - importing pictures iteration 2 - 5.31 MB/s
    System storage - importing pictures iteration 3 - 5.29 MB/s
    Web browsing and decrypting / Web browsing 2.08 pages/s
    Web browsing iteration 1 - 2.06 pages/s
    Web browsing iteration 2 - 2.07 pages/s
    Web browsing iteration 3 - 2.12 pages/s
    Web browsing and decrypting / Data decrypting 10.47 MB/s
    Data decrypting iteration 1 - 10.55 MB/s
    Data decrypting iteration 2 - 10.44 MB/s
    Data decrypting iteration 3 - 10.41 MB/s
    System storage - Windows Defender / System storage - Windows Defender 1.26 MB/s
    System storage - Windows Defender iteration 1 - 1.25 MB/s
    System storage - Windows Defender iteration 2 - 1.26 MB/s
    System storage - Windows Defender iteration 3 - 1.26 MB/s

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    You are really overclocking a notebook?

    There is a very high possibility, that your cpu is overheating because of the overclocking. If that if the case, then you cpu is being throttled down to prevent any damage...

    First thing you should do

    1. Set your CPU to normal speed

    2. Check your CPU temperatures while playing.


    And yes.. your fps are FAR too low...
    Last edited by Delarcia; 03-15-2012 at 10:35 AM.

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    The processor is made to be overclocked, but I'm not overclocking it all the way.. I could try tuning it down to 2.8 but it's at 3.2 at the moment. It doesn't seem to get to hot, but I know my graphics cards get mega hot.. Upwards of 80c

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    Standard speed is 2,8 GHZ (Intel Core 2 Extreme Processor X9000).

    So it is overclocked. The problem is, that notebooks are not able to handle heat as good as desktop-computers.
    In most cases, those highend-mobile-CPUs are already running at their heatlimit in notebooks as soon as the are under heavy load.

    So, please, use the standard speed of the cpu and after this, you can check if there is another problem.

    You have to go step by step and exclude every possible cause...

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    I dropped my cpu power down to 2.8 so it is not overclocked anymore.. I downloaded a program called Speedfan to tell me my system temps and after about 5 minutes sitting in Meridian, Core1 is showing 108-111F and Core2 117F. I changed zones to Droughtlands and now its showing 95-100F Core1 and still 117F for Core2. But it also shows that im using 100% of core1 and 60-70% of core2.. and Im staring at a wall not even moving.

    I know for a fact that every process in the background is disabled, i've edited my msconfig. Ive switched windows effects and features (? I think) to run for high performance. Not sure why i'de be using so much CPU. I ran the benchmark again and here are the results, they are very similar to when I had my cpu overclocked.

    Processor - Intel Core 2 Extreme Processor X9000
    Processor clock - 598 MHz
    Physical / logical processors - 1 / 2
    # of cores - 2


    3DMark Score - 2743 3DMarks
    SM2.0 Score - 1166
    HDR/SM3.0 Score - 1561
    CPU Score - 521
    GraphicTest1 - Return To Proxycon - 9.78 FPS
    GraphicTest2 - Firefly Forest - 9.65 FPS
    CPU1 - Red Valley - 0.16 FPS
    CPU2 - Red Valley - 0.27 FPS
    HDR1 - Canyon Flight1 - 9.33 FPS
    HDR2 - Deep Freeze - 11.9 FPS

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    Is your fan working?
    Is the laptop full of dust?

    (Just ideas, because your laptop is running so hot.)

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    So after giving it a lot of thought I went ahead and wiped Win7 and installed a fresh copy of WinXp. It took me an entire day but before I did this I found out that my CPU was being severely throttled back due to the very known issue with dells M1730 laptops and that is that the AC adapter and battery have problems being recognized. In fact, my laptop doesnt run off battery because it's completely dead so I just run off AC power, which of course is an unknown device in my bios. So I downloaded CPU-Z to confirm and sure enough my core was running at 600mhz at 3 multipliers. I then downloaded Throttlestop to force my cores to run at normal speeds. Currently I have them running at 2.4ghz (200mhz x 12 multipliers). my temps never go past 50c and I manage 30fps-40fps in open world and 20 in meridian on low graphics. Which is fine by me. The new problem is that Rift thinks my graphics driver is out of date and it isn't.. And rift crashes after entering world every single time if I try to run with SLI. I'm sure there is a solution to THAT problem, I just have to find it. I also need to replace my AC adapter and battery in hopes that my laptop will stop being throttled.

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    honestly i think its time to upgrade, i only say this because the 8000 series graphics are from like 2004-2006 and the fact that they are in a laptop is even worse(mobile are as strong as desktop versions). if you would like i can point you towards some decent gaming laptops or tell you what i am personally going to be running (i bought a desktop replacement and its in the mail atm)

    also glad to know what your problem was, may help me in the future if my batt dies

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