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    Default Took your advice, building a pc! (Now need some help!)

    Hey guys. I want to say thanks again to everyone who has helped me with this so far.

    Taking everyones advice, I decided I want to try and build a PC myself. I've watched some tutorials, have some guides and a friend I can call if I need help. So, now I'm shopping. I want to list the parts I'm looking at here and see what you all think of this build. I am a total noob when it comes to this stuff, sort of learning it as I go. This is basically the first / rough draft.

    GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-423-_-Product

    Intel Core i7-940 Bloomfield 2.93GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80601940
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115201

    COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119137

    SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152185

    CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMZ8GX3M2A1600C9
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820233144

    Corsair - Gaming Series 700-Watt ATX CPU Power Supply
    http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Corsair+...&skuId=1073697

    I have an OS (Win7) and a video card, nvidia gtx 460 (BUT I plan on upgrading it at some point in the future). Still figuring out what I want as far as DVD drive so just not sure about that yet. I already have mouse, keyboard, monitor, speakers, basically everything external.

    I do not plan on doing any overclocking, but, do I need an additional type of cooling system?
    So, do these things fit? Anything not compatible?
    Am I missing any parts?
    Your general advice, opinion, etc.?
    Will it run Rift on maxed settings? (If so, how well?)
    Is this too much or not enough computer for Rift?
    Can this PC handle a gtx 500 series or one of the existing high-end video cards when I upgrade?
    Am I getting way too much in one area and not enough in another, etc. etc.

    So many questions, Anyway, let me know what you guys think. Thanks in advance.
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    Ok start with memory: switch from the 8 GB dual channel kit to a 6 GB triple channel kit ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145286 ). While that PSU is nice this one from the same company will allow for a SLI or CrossfireX config later on ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139006 ). It is also $10 less with MIR. I also like the HAF 912 case ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811119233 ) which is $20 less, which you can add to your CPU budget and pick up this one ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115211 ). As far as optical drives go ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827135204 ). I've been using that one for about a year now and not an issue.
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    Most of these parts are pretty decent. You should be able to run the game on high settings with a decent fps. You might, however, run a little slowly on max settings in a raid scenario. That graphics card is good, but not great and will bottle neck your system in a max setting, graphic intensive raid fight. If you plan to upgrade graphics cards to a high end option, I would recommend getting a more advanced motherboard, perhaps the Asus x58d premium or x58d-e. Also, you left out a cd/dvd drive, you will need one. You can usually get one for around 30 or 40 bucks, maybe cheaper.

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    For $10 more you can get the Antec Nine Hundred. It may come down to preference, but the Nine Hundred is an EXTREMELY popular case, because it's just flat out good. I don't know about the CM case particularly.
    The mobo has a LOT of 1 egg reviews (~25%) when compared to other, similar motherboards. However, going with sub-$200, I didn't see a whole lot of options - mostly ASRock and a few MSI, and an open box Asus. (I'd personally take the Asus, but I have all sorts of spare cables and connectors laying around that typically come in a mobo box, that might be missing open box - so caveat emptor on that)
    Finally, it also uses triple-channel memory, not dual channel, so you're going to want 3 sticks of triple channel memory, optimally.
    FWIW, when I bought the Corsair Vengeance memory for my rig, it was cheaper to buy 2 individual sticks than a two pack.

    I don't build Intel systems, typically, so that's just my 2c.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glaedr12 View Post
    You can usually get one for around 30 or 40 bucks, maybe cheaper.
    If you are paying more than $25 for an optical drive you are being ripped.
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    That case you chose is an older series. Look at the new updated one.
    CM 690 Advance
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...=690%20advance

    Going the i7 route is no longer a better value. Look at the Sandy Bridge series, perform better than i7.
    Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...Tpk=i5%202500k
    ASUS P8P67 LGA1555
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131705
    Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-533-_-Product

    Keep the ram you already picked
    Gamer Series PSU are ok, but too new for any real testing.

    Updated version of the TX750, now 80+ bronze
    CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX750 V2
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-021-_-Product

    Or if you really want a top end PSU to keep your system working great is get a 80+ Gold like the SeaSonic X750 Gold 750W
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...51087&Tpk=750w

    Also get a good CPU cooler too, for when you want to OC.
    COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-065-_-Product
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    thank you all for the replies so far!

    Going through your suggestions and adjusting my list (updated case, adding cooler, looking at different Ram you suggested etc.)

    My friend advised that I look at AMD, so now I'm considering:
    AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Turbo 6 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDE00ZFBGRBOX
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103913

    Looking at mobos for that one now...thoughts on that CPU and a possible mobo?

    Also, on the cooling system - Is that something you put on top of the CPU instead of the stock heatsink/fan? I don't plan on overclocking, but you never know I might change my mind down the road

    Since I already have a vid card which I will eventually upgrade, for everything else we're looking at I'm just trying to stay under $800-1000 total if I can, but I'm flexible budget-wise

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    Kalec, what do you think of an AMD board and cpu? Thanks!!
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    I would stick with the Sandy Bridge right now, as its a much better performer than the X6. Thats only if you dont have a system yet.
    Current people that have an X6, its not worth the upgrade, like myself.

    Everything that I posted is a but solution for you. The Ram you picked will be the one you want on the parts I picked.

    As for cooling, aftermarket will perform better than stock, regardless if you OC or not.
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    For cooling I would go with a Coolermaster Hyper 212+ ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103065 ). For 30 bucks i cannot think of a better cooler. As far as AMD mobos go with the MSI 890FXA-GD70 ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...scrollFullInfo ) or the Asus Crosshair IV Formula ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...20IV%20Formula ). Both of which pair up well with that CPU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalec View Post
    I would stick with the Sandy Bridge right now, as its a much better performer than the X6. Thats only if you dont have a system yet.
    Current people that have an X6, its not worth the upgrade, like myself.

    Everything that I posted is a but solution for you. The Ram you picked will be the one you want on the parts I picked.

    As for cooling, aftermarket will perform better than stock, regardless if you OC or not.
    okay cool, building from scratch so yep I'll look at the sandy bridge. I remember reading that they recalled a bunch of them or something but I assume I'm safe buying one now?

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    ok looking at different stuff,

    sorry, but if someone could explain

    if the Phantom x6 has six cores, and the Intel i5-2500k has four (right?) The intel one still out-performs the x6?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pythaem View Post
    ok looking at different stuff,

    sorry, but if someone could explain

    if the Phantom x6 has six cores, and the Intel i5-2500k has four (right?) The intel one still out-performs the x6?
    wouldn't let me edit, meant phenom not phantom lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by pythaem View Post
    ok looking at different stuff,

    sorry, but if someone could explain

    if the Phantom x6 has six cores, and the Intel i5-2500k has four (right?) The intel one still out-performs the x6?
    Its not do with how many cores, its the structure of the CPU itself.

    Also if you want you can get ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 for the CPU heatsink.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-020-_-Product
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