Spate of exploits. Irreparable harm to our economy?

[Jhenox]

First there were plat sellers from day one. Then there were the number of out-of-the-blue server resets and hotfixes that people have suspected were due to exploits. Now you have last night's runebreaking exploit.

Do you feel that these problems from release will snowball into long term problems with the Shadefallen economy vs a brand new shard opened up after these exploits have been corrected? Will this have a negligible affect in a day or two? What are your thoughts?

[Jhenox]

Ok, the first part was rhetorical. My two cents are that Trion has been squashing these as soon as they are aware of them and hopefully before more than a handful of people on a handful of servers are aware of them. I just hope someone doesn't discover and item duping exploit or something that would quickly destroy the economy at least for a time.

[Leelee]

Every MMO is going to run into this. Exploits are alive and well, those that abuse them usually get banned or suspended for a pinch and they get taken out...
I swear sometimes Devs put them in just to see how crooked players are!
Plat sellers day 1, no shock really, there's a market for it, they will always be there.

I dont see it ruining the economy any more then the guy who doesnt have a job and stays home all day eating hot pockets and pharming stuff that sells well Effect it, oh ya, but not destroy it

[Kuwani]

Shouldn't cause too much harm based on the time frame that they've been catching and correcting things in.That said, I would hope they go through at the very least remove any ill gotten gains people have acquired. Though personally I would rather see those abusing bugs started on the account suspension/ban track.

[Stargeezer]

No, I don't see any long-term economic impact on the server. Trion has been very proactive in ferreting out exploits and plugging the holes, so any perceived benefit is extremely short-lived. I think I've been only hit with 7-8 plat spammer IM's since Head-start, which in the grand scheme of things isn't bad at all. The fact that the problem is address seriously by both Trion and the community, and that for every banned account, some low-life just wasted $50 and has to start over, is quite satisfactory from my vantage.

I almost rue the day when they start offering free trials. THAT'S when you'll see an explosion in plat sellers. Right now, $50 a hit starts eating into their margins. Free trials provides nearly limitless opportunities to bombard servers with their "services" with next to no economic repercussions to deal with. This requires the publisher to be extra vigilant in shutting off all avenues of potential exploitation from an aggressor that is both tireless and ruthless.

[Nightstarr]

With as young as the game is and how are still learning things I don't see any harm. Heck the only real money sink I have mana pots. I did buy a few rings of the ah but more to fill slots then anything.

The only really items that seem to cost is bags cause lets face it pack space is at a premium. The cracking down of exploits at this time is keeping inflation down.

[runicNomad]

How in the world with so many people betaing the game was this stuff not reported. Is Beta just a time in which people find them to use them during live?

[Nightstarr]

I was a runecrafter in beta not sure were the exploit was. Open beta was more like here try the game for free see if you like it.

[Airez]

How in the world with so many people betaing the game was this stuff not reported. Is Beta just a time in which people find them to use them during live?

Content is often played far more so than the market on PTRs, betas, etc. From my experience in the Beta, the economy didn't exist at all. Yes, there were items on the auction house, but for the most part, trade skills were ignored far and wide for the sake of leveling up and testing out the content / playing the game. It's not rare for tradeskills to go unchecked simply because there's no permanent use for those done on betas and the like.

As for as permanently scarring the economy? No, I don't see this as being the case. The game has only officially been released for a week, and this isn't going to impact the economy any further than what it has now. Items are still cheap, money is still scarce, and the economy is free-game for everyone at the moment.

[Meerletalis]

The only runebreaking exploit I know of in testing was properly reported and I confirmed it was fixed. Unless there was a new one or part of the patch did not reach live, this would be a different one than that.

[Jhenox]

In response to the post about the runebreaking exploit I had seen some people complain that they had seen max skill runecrafters that were in their 20s. I wonder if some endless loop of create and break had been discovered.

[Stargeezer]

In response to the post about the runebreaking exploit I had seen some people complain that they had seen max skill runecrafters that were in their 20s. I wonder if some endless loop of create and break had been discovered.

From what I just read on the General Discussion forum, this appears to be exactly the case. Folks somehow could break, sell and re-buy over and over. Don't ask me, haven't tried runebreaking yet, so don't know the subtleties, but rest assured that's one 'sploit that Trion's gonna plug up quick.