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    Quote Originally Posted by Traciatim View Post
    The guardians all left. Open world filled with defiant. If any guardian player is in open world they run away from fights because they get zerg killed over and over. You are now up to speed on the status of Molinar.
    wait?? your all leaving because your getting what we got before hand???
    wow and i thought guardians wernt cry babies :P

    bring in more guardians plz....my lvl 40 alt isnt having any open world fun!! need some guardians to kill
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamagedHeals View Post
    why did the guardian guilds transfer off? couldn't handle a challenge? I think more should come back, the only guild that even trys is outnumbered.
    Queue times. They were 15 minutes for a solo/duo-queue
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    Unfortunately we do not need to kill a group of disobedience does not have a lot, maybe you can tell a carebear

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzlebox View Post
    Queue times. They were 15 minutes for a solo/duo-queue
    Must be @ 50. I haven't waited longer than 10 minutes to get a queue on Guardian side here (and that's including at 3AM). ****, I've been queuing for the last 4 hours, and I haven't waited longer than 2 minutes, with some of those pops being in 10 secs. Although I've been told the queues pop like water right now @50, just most people are transferring because (to my understanding) because they can't get easy (or even decent-fought) wins in WFs anymore.

    I'm currently torn because the people I actually play with right now just transferred to Brocliff. I've got toons there, but I've seriously been unimpressed with that server since beta.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzlebox View Post
    Queue times. They were 15 minutes for a solo/duo-queue
    None of the guardians make any sense.

    I have, since i transferred to molinar, experienced queue times of <1-2 min almost every time I queue. Lately a ton of guardian guilds left apparently enough so that Molinar is a "defiant zerg fest" some people have said... but however, my queue times are still <1-2 min almost every time I queue, thus unchanged.

    If OP is correct and we outnumber guardians 5 to 1, you'd think their queue times would be 5 times faster than ours! But According to Puzzlebox they are 5 times slower So which is it? Are we outnumbering you? Or not. You all can't have it both ways. This data put together can only lead to one conclusion: that our cluster is not defiant heavy. Because if my queue times are super quick, then there is a heavy guardian population somewhere. It's just math

    I just think that the guardians are there on Molinar, they are just too afraid to come out because of this fear bomb you guys are passing around. They used to do the same crap on our side about Enclave, "waaah wah wah, guardian zergs, wahh, I can't quest blah blah blah" so MMAC stepped up to the challenge, transferred over and organized 3 raids to fight them off. They were never heard from again. Just because we can organize 20 people (that's all it is) it's not like we've dominated a whole server into submission. All you have to do is do the same and organize... just need one guy with balls to be a hero, and not admit defeat from the start like the OP did.
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    Queues are still looking pretty sexy.

    The constant Raid+ of Defiant in the PvP Daily area isn't. I caught WF pop, took it on derp reflex, and when I came out, 10 people were standing around the spot were I ported.

    Zerging solos = srs bsns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kuronese View Post
    Queues are still looking pretty sexy.

    The constant Raid+ of Defiant in the PvP Daily area isn't. I caught WF pop, took it on derp reflex, and when I came out, 10 people were standing around the spot were I ported.

    Zerging solos = srs bsns.
    Don't go solo where you expectworld pvp....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Menaace View Post
    None of the guardians make any sense.

    I have, since i transferred to molinar, experienced queue times of <1-2 min almost every time I queue. Lately a ton of guardian guilds left apparently enough so that Molinar is a "defiant zerg fest" some people have said... but however, my queue times are still <1-2 min almost every time I queue, thus unchanged.

    If OP is correct and we outnumber guardians 5 to 1, you'd think their queue times would be 5 times faster than ours! But According to Puzzlebox they are 5 times slower So which is it? Are we outnumbering you? Or not. You all can't have it both ways. This data put together can only lead to one conclusion: that our cluster is not defiant heavy. Because if my queue times are super quick, then there is a heavy guardian population somewhere. It's just math
    you realize there are other shards in this warfront queue right? So just because one server outnumbers on one side doesn't mean all the other ones are the same derp de DERP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Menaace View Post
    None of the guardians make any sense.

    I have, since i transferred to molinar, experienced queue times of <1-2 min almost every time I queue. Lately a ton of guardian guilds left apparently enough so that Molinar is a "defiant zerg fest" some people have said... but however, my queue times are still <1-2 min almost every time I queue, thus unchanged.

    If OP is correct and we outnumber guardians 5 to 1, you'd think their queue times would be 5 times faster than ours! But According to Puzzlebox they are 5 times slower So which is it? Are we outnumbering you? Or not. You all can't have it both ways. This data put together can only lead to one conclusion: that our cluster is not defiant heavy. Because if my queue times are super quick, then there is a heavy guardian population somewhere. It's just math

    I just think that the guardians are there on Molinar, they are just too afraid to come out because of this fear bomb you guys are passing around. They used to do the same crap on our side about Enclave, "waaah wah wah, guardian zergs, wahh, I can't quest blah blah blah" so MMAC stepped up to the challenge, transferred over and organized 3 raids to fight them off. They were never heard from again. Just because we can organize 20 people (that's all it is) it's not like we've dominated a whole server into submission. All you have to do is do the same and organize... just need one guy with balls to be a hero, and not admit defeat from the start like the OP did.
    This is what MMAC never realized. No matter how Defiant populated Molinar was, or Guardian populated, the queues never favored us. Because far more Guardians queue on the cluster than Defiant do. Why do you think PT and MMAC has been able to reliably fit in multiple groups into WF and PoS when I rarely ever saw Enclave groups, much less my own guys? We honestly though sync queueing was a magical myth because we rarely, if ever, was able to actually land in the same WF with duo-sync queues. It's on Briarcliff that we actually can do it somewhat reliably.

    And before MMAC, and before Enclave, there was Addiction crashing Raid Rifts the moment they made land fall. You should have seen the massive crying in 50 chat when they first showed up and carpet bombed everything. Yet hardly any of the Guardians left as a result.

    So it's not about the zerg. As everyone who left has always said. It was about the queues. It has always been about the queues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kuronese View Post
    Queues are still looking pretty sexy.

    The constant Raid+ of Defiant in the PvP Daily area isn't. I caught WF pop, took it on derp reflex, and when I came out, 10 people were standing around the spot were I ported.

    Zerging solos = srs bsns.
    Our queues are starting to get worse , kinda sucks


    As far as world pvp zergs go... Don't think there aren't guardian zergs either. I got roflstomped by 10+ yesterday in IPP (damn you <win> (and others) ), so I said in guild "Bunch of <Win> in IPP, let's fight.." dropped guild rally banner, and people started showing up.. We had 12 of us, then we cruised around the zone looking for them and they were nowhere to be found . It really sucks, because we're not trying to zerg people, we actually just want to pvp. We never say "Oh we need to make sure we have 12". We just tell people it's there's someone to PVP and people are eager for it so they show up to do it.

    When we run around stomping single players as a big group, the reason for that is we want you to put the word out to your friends/guilds and get something going. That's what world pvp is all about. Organize, communicate outside of your guilds!

    Maybe they need to make the guards in towns a lot stronger so that it's easier for the underdog side to have a place to regroup "safely" and engage in small skirmishes while waiting for reinforcements. They could even use the amount of people in the area around the town, to alter the aggressiveness/strength of the guards so as more people showed up, the guards got less involved and let the fights play out.

    We'll let you group up and organize if you guys just communicate with us, because right now what always happens, is we end up organizing for Raid vs Raid to fight a big group we see, then the people disappear and we're all rallied up and bored so we just roll whatever we find so we feel like it wasn't a complete waste of rally.

    If anyone wants to setup some world pvp just message me on here. We could give you a time span where we'll be doing pvp rifts and give people a chance to organize some numbers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Menaace View Post
    Because if my queue times are super quick, then there is a heavy guardian population somewhere. It's just math
    Right. There is. It's when Greenscale and the other cluster were merged into ours is when the queues became atrocious. Not to mention Freeholme has always had a strong Guardian presence in addition to Molinar.

    So if your queue times are super quick, it's at the expense of the Guardian queues. I don't see what you're arguing.

    Remember, we left a few days AFTER Enclave did. We were waiting to see if their leaving the cluster would improve queue times at all. It did not.

    That's when we decided to bail too. And you're talking about a group of guys who have been on Molinar since release day.
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    Idk what people are crying/cried about . I get normal que times , and I have since day # 1 .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzlebox View Post
    This is what MMAC never realized. No matter how Defiant populated Molinar was, or Guardian populated, the queues never favored us. Because far more Guardians queue on the cluster than Defiant do. Why do you think PT and MMAC has been able to reliably fit in multiple groups into WF and PoS when I rarely ever saw Enclave groups, much less my own guys? We honestly though sync queueing was a magical myth because we rarely, if ever, was able to actually land in the same WF with duo-sync queues. It's on Briarcliff that we actually can do it somewhat reliably.

    And before MMAC, and before Enclave, there was Addiction crashing Raid Rifts the moment they made land fall. You should have seen the massive crying in 50 chat when they first showed up and carpet bombed everything. Yet hardly any of the Guardians left as a result.

    So it's not about the zerg. As everyone who left has always said. It was about the queues. It has always been about the queues.
    Actually, when Defiants step up in Stillmoor (That's the only place where I've done my DRR yet) and start raid rifting, guardians run off and most of the time cry something like "Oh thank you, we definitely needed some action" and then we don't even see them anymore. The rare guardians we ever see keep running from Defiants, except those who'll go attacking lower lvls.

    The only place where I don't always see Guardians running is IPP, where they actually stand 3 or 3 at a time, questing, and I'm only talking about lvl 50s, cause of course most of the lower levels don't stay in IPP. I don't know how or when they lvl, but we never see them. Must be a stealth hack. ;P
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    I don't know what OP said, but I agree.
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