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    Default Dear Guardian clerics and other useful pvp tips

    If you enter a wf as a dps cleric you are doing it wrong. Your laughable dps, if you can call it that, wont help anyone please L2heal. After one day on this server that is guardians biggest problem. I am bringing it to the forefront.

    Secondly, FF (Focus Fire). If you don't have an assist macro set up then please do so. When you enter a wf quickly inspect your warriors and make your assist macro the best one in there. Why? Because they are heal debuffing. Making it easy to kill one person. This is very important as your warriors SHOULD be on a mana using class. aka cleric/mage.

    Lastly is group defense. Warriors and melee rogues should immediately target healers. Clerics preferred. Healers should prioritize on the "Trained" person obviously but do not forget to heal your melee. Don't be afraid to move up to get in range. In the same respect melee don't chase someone 50 yards and overextend yourself from the group. You do and you die. Now Ranged your job is just as if not more important than anyone else s. You should be assisting the warriors for kill target ONLY after you secure your healers safety. This means the melee will be keeping the defiant healers busy healing themselves while you kill any melee that is on your healers.

    The main point behind this all is ...Don't try and be a hero. One man does not a warfront win. It is a team game and if you don't work together you will lose. As the saying goes. United we stand....Divided we fall

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    How dare you use logic on these forums!
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    I keep hoping folks will learn these basics of group PvP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herby1 View Post
    The main point behind this all is ...Don't try and be a hero. One man does not a warfront win. It is a team game and if you don't work together you will lose. As the saying goes. United we stand....Divided we fall
    I disagree, im so good, and the guardian and Defiant here are so bad that I single-handedly win every WF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swiftly View Post
    I disagree, im so good, and the guardian and Defiant here are so bad that I single-handedly win every WF.
    What a humble guy.



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    Friends don't let friends run dps cleric in WFs.
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    I'd just like to say, if your clerics do mediocre dps in WFs, they're doing it wrong

    Plenty of specs that can with enough crit, burst someone down just as quickly as any warrior.

    However I digress... finding someone in the right gear, let alone the right spec for the job is few and far between... I'd probably have better luck finding rare artifacts in Meridian. <sadface>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sokanon View Post
    Plenty of specs that can with enough crit, burst someone down just as quickly as any warrior.
    Not good warriors... Not a single DPS cleric spec in the game that can put out either the burst or sustained that top-tier warriors can do.
    Last edited by iEchoic; 07-15-2011 at 12:41 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Herby1 View Post
    If you enter a wf as a dps cleric you are doing it wrong. Your laughable dps, if you can call it that, wont help anyone please L2heal. After one day on this server that is guardians biggest problem. I am bringing it to the forefront.

    Secondly, FF (Focus Fire). If you don't have an assist macro set up then please do so. When you enter a wf quickly inspect your warriors and make your assist macro the best one in there. Why? Because they are heal debuffing. Making it easy to kill one person. This is very important as your warriors SHOULD be on a mana using class. aka cleric/mage.

    Lastly is group defense. Warriors and melee rogues should immediately target healers. Clerics preferred. Healers should prioritize on the "Trained" person obviously but do not forget to heal your melee. Don't be afraid to move up to get in range. In the same respect melee don't chase someone 50 yards and overextend yourself from the group. You do and you die. Now Ranged your job is just as if not more important than anyone else s. You should be assisting the warriors for kill target ONLY after you secure your healers safety. This means the melee will be keeping the defiant healers busy healing themselves while you kill any melee that is on your healers.

    The main point behind this all is ...Don't try and be a hero. One man does not a warfront win. It is a team game and if you don't work together you will lose. As the saying goes. United we stand....Divided we fall

    This PSA brought to you by 3rd street chicken and ribs
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    It seems that this server has fallen behind the rest.. What I mean in this is that people are still using 1.1 and 1.2 warfront specced characters. Please take a look at the forums and figure out some new stuff. I see a general lack of warriors on this cluster and to not see them running paragon is just laughable.

    Now some tips...because I'm not just strictly an *******

    MAGES; Warfront Specializations

    If your a low rank player, play cookie cutter chloro dom lock. 33 dom 15 am rest Chloro.

    YOU HAVE TO HAVE DOMINATOR
    YOU HAVE TO HAVE DOMINATOR
    YOU HAVE TO HAVE DOMINATOR
    YOU HAVE TO HAVE DOMINATOR

    Sorry for the emphasis, but its true.

    My full dominator spec: 51 dom(Mass Betrayal), 15 archmage(overload), 0 archon(main nuke Pillaging Stone)

    Rank 6 Chloro lock ( my fun spec for MASSIVE damage, don't mess around without pocket healer or some clerics lol) 38 Warlock, 28 Chloro NATURE's FURY is amazing..

    Rank 6 Stormcaller (healer needed)
    33 storm 20 archmage 13 warlock (opportunity)
    Arctic blast the hell out of things with building storm. I hit for 5K
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    PvP Mage strategy

    Peel duty: We as the mages are the ones who control the fight. We make sure to slow down dps trains on the clerics as well as assist on focus fire call outs. Make sure you have the top geared warrior on your assist macro for when you have time to assist. Have transference on their top warrior at all times as well as traitorous on their top cleric. Drop Mass Betrayal on big stacks of enemies and watch them drop to 0 mana and 0 life in seconds.

    Drop incompetence on their highest damaging player on the opposing team, Deny targets getting focus fired so they can be outhealed through the damage..

    DENY IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS A MAGE CAN DO.

    If you see a teammate with any type of stack of DOMINATOR debuff, Deny him, or your teams dead.

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    Dominator rotation (pending they dont have another dominator)
    Squirrel, Grasping Void, Storm shackle, traitorous/transference, pop Split Personality, Mental Shock, Searing Vitality, Pillaging stone till dead.

    The reason for grasping void first without an enemy dominator is that will stack up and enemy players have to dispel multiple multiple times to get through the stacks. One DENY, will handle all of this.

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    Chloro Lock rotation
    Life leech, withering vines, neddra's grasp, draining bolt, defile, Nature's fury, devouring shadows (tap), heal if needed, CDs if needed. You can also start by dark touching/neddra's into a Radiate Death for AE dots.

    Basically have defile on your target whenever you have charge. Nature's Fury when its up always. It's your strongest spell.

    But my favorite and most effective for kill blow stealing and very very quick burst is tapping DEVOURING SHADOWS. Make sure to have entropic veil toggled on.

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    I think thats enough for now. Lets goooooooo FAEMIST..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rhiraden View Post
    What I mean in this is that people are still using 1.1 and 1.2 warfront specced characters. .
    Yep. This server is like a time capsule. I feel like I've teleported back to 1.1 or 1.2.

    I see an astonishingly high amount of warriors running either some 2h beastmaster thing, or the old-school void knight spec, or some weird-*** reaver riftblade thing that hasn't been used since beta.

    Guide to entering 1.3 as a warrior:
    1) Get two 1hers
    2) Spec 44 para
    3) ???
    4) Profit!
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    Legendaryheal offically is DPS

    "The Rapage of Defiants."



























    I LIE!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by iEchoic View Post
    Not good warriors... Not a single DPS cleric spec in the game that can put out either the burst or sustained that top-tier warriors can do.
    The thing is, this doesnt even cover the biggest point. Dps warriors provide lingering Wounds. Clerics provide offheals, which mostly are either very weak aoe healing OR self heals.

    Dps clerics provide very little. Anything they can provide a Rogue, Warrior or Mage can do better.
    Glory - Guardian Warrior / Cleric

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeraz View Post
    The thing is, this doesnt even cover the biggest point. Dps warriors provide lingering Wounds. Clerics provide offheals, which mostly are either very weak aoe healing OR self heals.

    Dps clerics provide very little. Anything they can provide a Rogue, Warrior or Mage can do better.
    Anything you can do I can do better.

    Sorry, couldnt resist.

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    I love my mage.


    Mage is my favorite class.

    Playing ANYTHING with Gebrile/Tenecabo/Cabotene in the name.
    "Rogues were put in PvP for wars who need a bloodthirsty proc while killing a caster." - Lyanna
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeraz View Post
    The thing is, this doesnt even cover the biggest point. Dps warriors provide lingering Wounds. Clerics provide offheals, which mostly are either very weak aoe healing OR self heals.

    Dps clerics provide very little. Anything they can provide a Rogue, Warrior or Mage can do better.
    Then please make this noticable to the cleric forums... we tend to get Rogues, Warriors, and Mages that Clerics need nerfs because we can do it all and do it just as well.... I'll leave you to it.

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