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    Default Expert Gear Vendors DISABLED, refunds incoming

    EXPERT GEAR VENDOR:

    Apparently these vendors are not so good at math.

    We have had to disable the vendors that was added with the patch.
    Dev is pulling logs now and will remove and refund all of the purchases, as the prices were far, far lower than they were supposed to be. Many items were also Bind on Equip and were not supposed to be.

    Brasse
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    Why is expert gear being sold rather than farmed for? - Genuinely curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoli View Post
    Why is expert gear being sold rather than farmed for? - Genuinely curious.
    It's not, the gear was purchasable with void stones earned from open world events and dungeons. The prices were much lower than intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Learan View Post
    It's not, the gear was purchasable with void stones earned from open world events and dungeons. The prices were much lower than intended.
    I thought they were being bought for ~85 gold, and that's why they were taken down?

    and aren't void stones earned all over the game? You'd have a bunch just doing normal dungeons/content while leveling to 50 just to buy the expert gear with it? Not having to actually do the expert dungeons?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stoli View Post
    I thought they were being bought for ~85 gold, and that's why they were taken down?

    and aren't void stones earned all over the game? You'd have a bunch just doing normal dungeons/content while leveling to 50 just to buy the expert gear with it? Not having to actually do the expert dungeons?
    That's been their philosophy for a while.

    However, the number of normal dungeons to do this, to max, sounds mind numbing.

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    So, if someone was making fluff Apothecary items, and reselling to vendor, they now have thousands of plat. So, if someone got to the vendors before they were disabled, they got expert gear for very little currency. If someone did both, they would be geared well and very rich. They can mess with the auction economy as they wish and have no need to buy anything.

    Just pointing out the obvious.

    If the gear is not deleted from the toons and refunds given, as well as taking plat back for the Apothecary snafu (Yeah I know it is hard, but they knew it was wrong), then certain people have an unfair advantage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laethe View Post
    So, if someone was making fluff Apothecary items, and reselling to vendor, they now have thousands of plat. So, if someone got to the vendors before they were disabled, they got expert gear for very little currency. If someone did both, they would be geared well and very rich. They can mess with the auction economy as they wish and have no need to buy anything.

    Just pointing out the obvious.

    If the gear is not deleted from the toons and refunds given, as well as taking plat back for the Apothecary snafu (Yeah I know it is hard, but they knew it was wrong), then certain people have an unfair advantage.
    I agree that these both can and will cause an unfair advantage. It appears that they have addressed the gear situation with this statement just below. Cudos to you Trion for taking action and fixing this before it became a larger issue. I also must say feels bad man to the players who unknowingly purchased gear and was like excited then got let down.
    Quote Originally Posted by TrionBrasse View Post
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    Dev is pulling logs now and will remove and refund all of the purchases, as the prices were far, far lower than they were supposed to be.
    Brasse
    However, as far as the crafting situation goes, it appears that they either have not taken action or refuse to tell us that they have taken action. There was a dev that eluded to no action being taken on the abusers of the crafting situation. This was a large amount of currency released into the economy and is detrimental to the economy as a whole and very unfair to the rest of the players. :

    Quote Originally Posted by Tacitus View Post
    Definitely was an oversight.These will all be nerfed as well in the next patch.
    Until then - ALL THE APOTHECARY FLUFF RECIPES HAVE BEEN DISABLED.

    Your presentation of numbers seem a bit confused, but yes, these recipes have been abused. Over 5 days, Hot Sauce poured over 1,800plat into the economy by itself. That is a lot of hipster ketchup.

    The top 4 things sold to merchants in terms of total plat generation are all crafted apoth fluff items in this category. These four item IDs poured more plat into the economy than the next 300 item IDs combined.

    Nerfing this stuff is not an over-reaction. These are things that have major impacts on game economies when abused at scale. And in a fresh environment like Prime, we see just how fast they can create an impact.

    So, in the long run, they will not be rich and geared out, but they will be rich.
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    I have no idea why:
    • The expert vendor is going up before anyone has run a single expert.
    • The vendor offerings are the actual expert drops.
    • The vendor used open world currency.
    • The prices were so low.

    They just took the expert loot tables and dropped them in an NPC priced at only 400 void stones for rare items and 600 void stones for epics. At level 45 before they took it down I had all 3 weapon slots and all the hit slots of armor covered. Just poorly executed from top to bottom.
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    Wait. Won‘t this, the exp-exploiters and the crafting/plat-exploiters be rolled back?
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