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    Thank you so much for this thread. I am looking at rolling a mage next, and this is my go to thread for builds and what to do. Really, I appreciate this so much.

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    second the above - my mage is 33 and whilst MA is obviously stupid for levelling at this level it's great to know how to play the tank spec etc as well...

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    I haven't posted any dummy parses since GSB dropped, so here some. Everything was done with a powerstone on but no other consumables.

    DPS Rankings
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    0/0/0 Stats with Powerstone
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    43 Pyro/23 MA/0 Arb with Powerstone, +60 DPS Inferno
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    48 Ele/18 MA/0 Pyro with Powerstone, Ele Crystal
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    34 MA/32 Pyro/0 Arb with Powerstone, SC Crystal, +60 DPS Inferno
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    51 Pyro/12 SC/3 Harb with Powerstone, +60 DPS Inferno
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    I heard about the spec AOE 34MA / 32Harb you know this spec plz ?

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    What specs mages been having better luck with in GSB. Movement for pyro hurts so I was curious. Also the cleave seems more empowered in 48 ele
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brumos View Post
    I heard about the spec AOE 34MA / 32Harb you know this spec plz ?
    This spec isn't doing anything that 34 MA/32 Pyro doesn't already do better. If you want an optimal MA spec for AoE, 38 MA/20 SC/8 Harb is the best. 34 MA/32 SC is quite strong as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Baalthorne View Post
    What specs mages been having better luck with in GSB. Movement for pyro hurts so I was curious. Also the cleave seems more empowered in 48 ele
    This question depends entirely on how your group is handling plants.

    If you have sabs pulling them under the boss, then 51 Pyro is best for Greenscale damage. The movement with this strat is minimal and you can easily go everywhere you need with Flame Bolt procs, CB procs, and Flicker.

    If you have people knocking plants away, then 43 Pyro is acceptable to use again (51 Pyro is still good!). 43 Pyro loses a great amount of dps from the plants chewing up the initial hit of Flash Fire as well as most bolts so it's imperative that you are allowed to play in melee and that there are no plants under the boss.

    If your group needs more Aoe DPS to burn the adds so they don't heal Greenscale, then you should be playing 34 MA or 51 SC.

    51 Pyro when plants are under boss: ~2.7k and another 400 dps to adds = 3100 effective DPS.
    43 Pyro when plants are under boss: ~2.4k and another 500 dps to adds = 2900 effective DPS. This would be more if plants were knocked away and 43 Pyro could be in melee. Probably another 300+.
    34 MA/51 SC: ~1.7k and a lot more to adds = 3000 effective dps (probably? Too hard to count all the dps done to adds/pollen and I've only got to play 34 MA once).

    The damage done to adds means only the adds during Air Phase and Pollen, not plants!

    Here's a wipe deep into the fight with 51 Pyro. I recommend giving it a shot if you feel your damage is low. Greenscale is actually a great fight for it.
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    ok ty scourge and I can Iron Claw Wizard's Emblem (Honored Iron Claw Trappers Notoriety) find where ?

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    Dear devs,

    I want to play necro, or warlock, or necrolock. fix this please. i don't want ma in everything. i dont want anymore fireballs. i can get that in other games.

    why do mage dots do 1/3 the damage of a defiler, who also has more of them? the pet does not make up that damage not by a long shot.

    this ain't live. there is no financial reason for you to make the expansion souls so much better than everything else by such a large margin because nobody on this server is going to be paying you real money for them.

    fix pls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brumos View Post
    ok ty scourge and I can Iron Claw Wizard's Emblem (Honored Iron Claw Trappers Notoriety) find where ?
    At your factionís iron claw quartermaster in Scarwood Reach
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    Default Tank BiS

    Any chance we can get a BiS for expect and Raid for Tanking gear please?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhear View Post
    Any chance we can get a BiS for expect and Raid for Tanking gear please?
    There are very few options for each slot at Prime gear levels for mage tanks currently. If you stumble across a mage tank piece, it is likely the only option other than token pieces. I don't know where all the mage tank pieces drop from and there aren't updated loot tables I can look at, so I can't compile a list.

    If you want a stat priority, this is from an earlier post of mine

    1. Guard
    2. Intelligence/Endurance
    4. Block
    5. Spell Power
    6. Crit Power
    7. Spell Crit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhear View Post
    Any chance we can get a BiS for expect and Raid for Tanking gear please?
    i have found some blue mage tanking items in the expert queue. they have block. dodge, or block and dodge.

    all have less armor than the dps pieces, by half. don't bother trying to farm for them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scourge View Post

    Here's a wipe deep into the fight with 51 Pyro. I recommend giving it a shot if you feel your damage is low. Greenscale is actually a great fight for it.
    Spoiler!

    Focus,

    Can you post your 51 Pryo macros/rotation, it's no longer listed.

    Thank you, if you can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethoua View Post
    Focus,

    Can you post your 51 Pryo macros/rotation, it's no longer listed.

    Thank you, if you can.
    I try to keep guides up only for specs that fill a niche. As 43 Pyro is strictly superior to 51 Pyro, I took the 51 Pyro guide down. I don't play much anymore but have added it to the first posts for posterity.
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    I moved the 51 Pyro guide to the front page and have added a 38 Chloro/28 FK guide. I've also encapsulated the soul tree images in spoiler tags to improve readability and help mobile users.
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