Work with us for Arenas

[ChrisN]

Could you guys give us arena. I know many people would fiddle around with it and many would do nothing but arena. I understand that you try to be unique, however arena is a type of PvP that many people would love to have in Rift. I just want to see this as an option for people to play. I personally don't enjoy Warfronts or Conquest. The reason for that is, the individual player has no value when large groups steam roll around the field in an unorganized manner. I'm the person who enjoys organized PvP with strategy developed to counter another teams composition.

I know that you could give us arena, just try to make this an option for people in Rift. Thanks Daglar!

List of interested people started on 11/07/12:http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/rift-pvp/signatures
This was brought to my attention by Fafa and I thank you. This will let people show their interest while showing Trion/Rift tangible numbers.

Summary of discussion: Updated 11/7/12

Arena concepts:
*PvE and PvP separate. Trion/Rift can balance an ability in PvP without making a change to it in PvE.
*Arena will take place inside a Rift.
*Could introduce Relic PvP weapons with unique effect proc such as Vengeance, Valor or a unique visual effect on the weapon.
*End of season rewards can consist of Mounts, Titles and other such vanity as unique skins.
*Gear available for purchase from Arena will be the same as Warfront gear Stat for Stat.
*Gear earned via Arena will have unique skin for tier one and tier two.
*Arena will have two tiers of gear available for purchase. Tier one will have a the same skin as Warfront gear except for color. Tier two will have a unique skin separate from Tier one/Warfront gear.
*Arena will award favor/prestige for victory/loss.
*Arena gear will require favor to purchase.
*Arena will utilize a hidden MMR (Match Making Rating). "This topic is still being discussed"
*Can invite other players into a dimension. No rewards given, adjustable time limit/kills/deaths, number of team players. Made for training, practice, tournaments, rivalries and guild battles.

I will update the list by removing disliked concepts and adding concepts that come up in the discussion of this thread. Share your thoughts and be constructive.

[Kyera]

How's that open world, group vs. group thing going?

[Mandarb]

Another one of those threads?

I don't want this game to be ballanced around some PvP people who want to brag about their exploits in arena combat.

And, Vocal Minority =/= Majority =/= many people. And I do think it's a vocal minority, who try to appear a majority by opening thread upon thread about "Give us arenas! Everyone wants it!".


I just doubt it's worth the trouble to have it stir up larger scale PvP and PvE.

[HannonHellbringer]

Another one of those threads?

I don't want this game to be ballanced around some PvP people who want to brag about their exploits in arena combat.

And, Vocal Minority =/= Majority =/= many people. And I do think it's a vocal minority, who try to appear a majority by opening thread upon thread about "Give us arenas! Everyone wants it!".


I just doubt it's worth the trouble to have it stir up larger scale PvP and PvE.

Arena does not have to be balanced like most other games. Rift has a soul system that allows for a variety of different builds and the ability to have multiple roles. Already there are 5v5 open world matches going on, they are fun, they are balanced and nothing need change ecept a queue system thrown onto it and to pull people into an instanced area.

Rift is not WoW, do not bring your hate for WoW arena here and not give Rift a chance at good content because of bias and hate towards another game.

A lot of people want arena and a pure team deathmatch styled of pvp, this is a chance to make a lot of people happy. Trion just needs to tell the player base that they do not intend on making special changes to arena and will not balance it with special treatment. Trion needs to tell the playerbase to man up if they intend on playing arena or just stay out.

[ChrisN]

Arena does not have to be balanced like most other games. Rift has a soul system that allows for a variety of different builds and the ability to have multiple roles. Already there are 5v5 open world matches going on, they are fun, they are balanced and nothing need change ecept a queue system thrown onto it and to pull people into an instanced area.

Rift is not WoW, do not bring your hate for WoW arena here and not give Rift a chance at good content because of bias and hate towards another game.

A lot of people want arena and a pure team deathmatch styled of pvp, this is a chance to make a lot of people happy. Trion just needs to tell the player base that they do not intend on making special changes to arena and will not balance it with special treatment. Trion needs to tell the playerbase to man up if they intend on playing arena or just stay out.

I agree. At this point in time I'd just love to have the option available for us.

[Lords0fpain]

Lol...ppl already qq about op'ed classes (warriors), abilities (fanout), etc. Arenas only magnify op abilities, thus much more qq. It disrupts PvP and pve, when devs start trying to balance based on arenas. Make no mistake, once it here, the forums will be full of qq. Think the beef bat is bad now, just add arenas. Please...just say...no...to arenas.

[Trigged]

Because it's hard to tell just by counting forum posts, it's hard to say which side of the coin has more votes.

I too, would really like some sort of arena. I do not want the game balanced around it, nor would I want any better rewards than what current pvp gives. It doesn't even have to be ranked.

Arena based one life small group combat was my fav thing to do in a certain other game. But I play rift now and am not leaving. What's so wrong with wanting one of my favorite activities added to the game I want to play?

Arena would just be the icing on the sweet cake of rift

[Lords0fpain]

Pretty sure they stated at the start, no arenas.

[ChrisN]

Pretty sure they stated at the start, no arenas.

We have been told no on other subjects as well. In the MMO world there is no such thing as no. If enough people desire a feature, they will work on a way to give it to us. This is why I respect Trion, they work hard to give us what we want.

[Meina]

We have been told no on other subjects as well. In the MMO world there is no such thing as no. If enough people desire a feature, they will work on a way to give it to us. This is why I respect Trion, they work hard to give us what we want.

But is there enough desire to warrant the addition of arenas to Rift.

Keep in mind that Trion is already opposed to the idea, so there would need to be a huge outcry in favor of arenas. I just don't see that type of response from the player base.

Arena style play caters to a rather small percentage of the player base. I really don't see Trion going out of their way to placate that small segment of the population on little more than some people saying "We wantz eeet!!".

That being said...

I have no problem with Trion adding some form of small scale death match to the game, as long as it's not modeled on the fiasco that was WoW arenas. I'm all for giving people options, but I don't see a large amount of support for this option, from Trion or the player base as a whole.

As I've said many times, if you truly want some form of competitive PvP, start pushing for rated WF's. You're more likely to get those than you are arenas. And, if we did get rated WF's, and we showed enough support for them, this might also show Trion that we are truly interested in competitive PvP, which might force them to reevaluate their stance on arenas.

[Sariina]

If there is a possible way to ruin Rift PVP even further than the fiasco that is Conquest it it most certainly Arenas.

Al we really need is a pure PK-PVP warfront or 5.

[ChrisN]

But is there enough desire to warrant the addition of arenas to Rift.

Keep in mind that Trion is already opposed to the idea, so there would need to be a huge outcry in favor of arenas. I just don't see that type of response from the player base.

Arena style play caters to a rather small percentage of the player base. I really don't see Trion going out of their way to placate that small segment of the population on little more than some people saying "We wantz eeet!!".

That being said...

I have no problem with Trion adding some form of small scale death match to the game, as long as it's not modeled on the fiasco that was WoW arenas. I'm all for giving people options, but I don't see a large amount of support for this option, from Trion or the player base as a whole.

As I've said many times, if you truly want some form of competitive PvP, start pushing for rated WF's. You're more likely to get those than you are arenas. And, if we did get rated WF's, and we showed enough support for them, this might also show Trion that we are truly interested in competitive PvP, which might force them to reevaluate their stance on arenas.

I also would like the rated battle ground system that WoW uses, I think it would be a perfect fit in my opinion. I still would like arena as an option just because its my niche. In regards to a realistic addition to PvP in Rift, I can definitely see a rated warfront system that offers titles, mounts and other such vanity items for rewards.

[Keota]

Lol...ppl already qq about op'ed classes (warriors), abilities (fanout), etc. Arenas only magnify op abilities, thus much more qq. It disrupts PvP and pve, when devs start trying to balance based on arenas. Make no mistake, once it here, the forums will be full of qq. Think the beef bat is bad now, just add arenas. Please...just say...no...to arenas.

pls let a rogue hit me with fanout 1v1. your obviously mistaken as to what is imbalanced in this game so i would have a hard time taking anything you say seriously. Chances are you dont want arenas because you are afraid you will be terrible at them. i dont know one person who doesn't enjoy a good deathmatch.

and for those who would say they dont.. remember that time when you capped vualt and then a rogue came out and you killed him? take away that objective and you just killed a rogue in a 1v1 death-match. and it was fun.

[Meina]

I also would like the rated battle ground system that WoW uses, I think it would be a perfect fit in my opinion. I still would like arena as an option just because its my niche. In regards to a realistic addition to PvP in Rift, I can definitely see a rated warfront system that offers titles, mounts and other such vanity items for rewards.

It seems like the logical progression to me. We already have the WF's, all that would be needed is a rating system and maybe a tweaked queue system.

Once that's in place, and if there's enough interest, then we can start trying to convince Trion that there are enough people who want arenas to warrant the addition of arenas.

Baby steps...

[Zyzyx]

I got to 5v5 TFS with a random group of guildies before they all went to gw2. It was the most fun I've had in rift pvp.

I am afraid that asking for arenas is demanding too much of trion's resources to appease such a small group of players ,but I would personally love it!