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    Quote Originally Posted by Nefelia View Post
    As a fellow healer I share the bafflement. Good warriors leave the opposing healers alone. Give it a try, Wreck.
    Not unless dps overextends! No thanks.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ehxon View Post
    you dont play to win you play to pocket heal a monster warrior that likes bashing in peoples heads 20-30x every game. even if your team loses points wise and wreck goes 20 or 30-0 it is still a win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwordSaint View Post
    Your logic is........ your good because of your gear....

    After normalization you want to GRIND as much of a advantage as possible then head over PvP and be GOOD at PvP.

    This logic suggests, you are NOT GOOD at PvP without any advantage over other players and that you need to be on a uneven playing field to make yourself feel GOOD.

    What happens when they don't allow any game mechanic advantages into PvP? Hacks? Cheats? Exploits? Scripts? Anything to give you an advantage over others right.
    LOL, what do you think everyone else will do? Seriously come out of your little fantasy land, if there is an advantage good players will use it. So far, PA, Procced items, consumables will be allowed in pvp if normalization goes through, if you do not know, PA is pretty powerful once it is capped and procced items give an obvious advantage.

    Trying to call me out is just silly because in the end, there is NO SUCH THING AS A FAIR MATCH. The fact you even think this just shows how little you know. Those who fight fairly usually end up the losers, good luck to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HannonHellbringer View Post
    LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by nygn View Post
    Except PvE has tiered progression, PvP does not. Applying PvE systems to PvP is why we have the mess that is rift PvP in the first place. They are different concepts and need to have different systems to make them work.
    PvE is apparently a competitive game mode, according to everyone who whines about PvP gear being easier to get whenever it happens to have stats that are anywhere close to the top tiers of PvE gear thus diminishing their accomplishments and making them replaceable. As such, we should normalize PvE gear so that skill is the factor that dictates who gets world firsts, not whoever has the most time to invest in grinding for gear and hoarding that advantage over everyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwordSaint View Post
    Your logic is........ your good because of your gear....

    After normalization you want to GRIND as much of a advantage as possible then head over PvP and be GOOD at PvP.

    This logic suggests, you are NOT GOOD at PvP without any advantage over other players and that you need to be on a uneven playing field to make yourself feel GOOD.

    What happens when they don't allow any game mechanic advantages into PvP? Hacks? Cheats? Exploits? Scripts? Anything to give you an advantage over others right.
    Good players use every advantage possible that isn't exploiting/cheating. It would be stupid not to. Hopefully Trion is smart enough to recognize those advantages and squash them if they're going to move forward with normalization.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teemofans View Post
    Everyone is rank 50 in warfronts

    everyone just kill me with three to four hits

    and you expect me to keep being slain like that for a month or more to get rank 50?

    okay, someone may enjoy this but i don't

    or i just run and stop in cq for three to five hours ,

    yeah, i don't even need to sleep

    good idea, normalization

    it is the fastest way to improve this situation if Trion doesn't want to make people getting rank50 easily
    Practice? We talkin' about PRACTICE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyera View Post
    PvE is apparently a competitive game mode, according to everyone who whines about PvP gear being easier to get whenever it happens to have stats that are anywhere close to the top tiers of PvE gear thus diminishing their accomplishments and making them replaceable. As such, we should normalize PvE gear so that skill is the factor that dictates who gets world firsts, not whoever has the most time to invest in grinding for gear and hoarding that advantage over everyone else.
    I kind of like this
    Quote Originally Posted by Majorin View Post
    Keeping a thread going with half truths, ignorance, bias, and an inability to understand even the most basic elements of pvp is not going to get anything nerfed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teemofans View Post
    Everyone is rank 50 in warfronts

    everyone just kill me with three to four hits

    and you expect me to keep being slain like that for a month or more to get rank 50?

    okay, someone may enjoy this but i don't

    or i just run and stop in cq for three to five hours ,

    yeah, i don't even need to sleep

    good idea, normalization

    it is the fastest way to improve this situation if Trion doesn't want to make people getting rank50 easily
    Can you normalize your grammer first?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kyera View Post
    PvE is apparently a competitive game mode, according to everyone who whines about PvP gear being easier to get whenever it happens to have stats that are anywhere close to the top tiers of PvE gear thus diminishing their accomplishments and making them replaceable. As such, we should normalize PvE gear so that skill is the factor that dictates who gets world firsts, not whoever has the most time to invest in grinding for gear and hoarding that advantage over everyone else.
    This will never happen in this MMO. I can see pvp normalization on some level. You wanted to "experiance content" without effort so they gave us Chronicles and the Support slot in Experts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fryday View Post
    Can you normalize your grammer first?
    "grammar" /10
    Quote Originally Posted by Majorin View Post
    Keeping a thread going with half truths, ignorance, bias, and an inability to understand even the most basic elements of pvp is not going to get anything nerfed.

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    a wild sniper apears!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fryday View Post
    a wild sniper apears!
    quit trolling my inner grammar n@zi

    edit: wtf @ the language filter ??
    Last edited by Cygfa; 08-20-2012 at 06:10 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Majorin View Post
    Keeping a thread going with half truths, ignorance, bias, and an inability to understand even the most basic elements of pvp is not going to get anything nerfed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cygfa View Post
    quit trolling my inner grammar n@zi

    edit: wtf @ the language filter ??

    What's a *****?

    LoL can't even spell it incorrectly either!
    Last edited by Eughe; 08-20-2012 at 06:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HannonHellbringer View Post
    These are very real questions. I imagine that good players will still destroy bad players, and though bad players blamed it on gear, once gone they really won't have much to fall back onto to blame and will have to just realize, they were not good.
    There will be an equal number if not many more cases of people who will totally obliterate the "Good" players once things are normalized. these are the talentd people who don't have 300+ hours to spend on a character just to make things fair.

    I noticed on the test that I was having no trouble demolishing people. It FELT like I was in BiS PvP gear and I was wrecking everyone, but in truth, that's what happens when things are FAIR. When I (stupidly) wasted many hours of my life grinding warfronts and FINALLY got to P40 and bought almost all the gear, I was wrecking people for all but maybe... two weeks? Then Conquest came out and shat all over that progress. The grind sucked before and I'm not gonna do it again. If gear is normalized in Storm Legion, you can bet your arse I'll be PvPing again

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    Normalisation and removing progression is not the answer.

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