PvP flag on dailies

[Sariina]

If that's all you have to offer maybe you should stop posting

W.

You should take your own advice and stop whining about having to PVP for PVP rewards.

[Asteldian]

If a over feels they have to do something they hate for a very minor upgrade that's their issue (boot rune is 12 main stat and 8 end) every pver I know settles for 6 AP 11 end rune. The difference does not break them. Same with the trinket - those anal about having everything will torture themselves for it, but most happily settle for the 150 AP trinket as it's pretty darn close.

How is this any different to the pvpers forced to faction grind stillmoor IPP and SS to get the bis runes? (aside from these grinds being far worse) or having to raid to get the best weapons for PvP? Or farm ISS to get the most powerful sigil?

Now pvers that want a tiny upgrade have to do something they don't want for a little while. Gives you a tiny glimpse of what pvpers have to suffer through.

[aeio]

As I said before, if your stupid PvP gear wasn't imba in PvE too I wouldn't care at all. It's bad thinking to force people into PvP if they want to be good in PvE.

Fine, leave the PvP flag, but make all PvP gear impossible to wear when not PvP marked. Then you can take your crappy attitude together with your gear and griefers to WF's and we PvE people can play our game in peace with our PvE gear and no stupid griefer camping. If I wanted fricking PvP I'd have rolled on a PvP server, easy enough to understand Forest?

W.

Why you so scurred of people? Maybe if the griefers put on a little dragon costume you would feel better.

You are not entitled to pvp gear without being open to pvp and nobody cares that you want it.

[Kyera]

Can I get "PvE quests" where I can pull ~3 Infernal Marks a day from killing players? At that point they can revert this change.

Yeah, sure, it was nice being able to PvE farm prestige/favor on Wolfsbane w/o dealing with any opposition, but it sure as hell wasn't "right". :3

My advice to the people not wanting to fight? Don't do the quests daily -- wait until the zone switches and do the old zone -- or bring friends/go off-peak.

Also I laughed pretty ****ing hard at PvP gear being "imba in PvE". Seriously laughed ****ing hard.

[Starsong]

Wow a non troll answer, I'm delighted.
I just can't agree that the PvP and PvE gear crossover is irrelevant. If you want to excel in PvE you are kinda forced to endure this kind of crap.
(New trinket, BiS boot rune)

On a PvE server there shouldn't even be PvP AT all, except maybe friendly duels. And PvP gear should NEVER be better than PvE gear (FOR PvE), that crossover you deem irrelevant is not for me at least.

W.

You failed to understand something from the very beggining. There never were TRUE PVE and PVP servers in Rift. Yes I know what the labels were, but that was not the intention. The intention was PVP flag always on and PVP flag optional. There was never an intention of a NO PVP PVE server here. Also, if that is the case, there should be NO PVP rewards or vendors on those self described PVE ONLY servers. You want PVP rewards, PVP for it or do not get them at all.

[Woor]

You failed to understand something from the very beggining. There never were TRUE PVE and PVP servers in Rift. Yes I know what the labels were, but that was not the intention. The intention was PVP flag always on and PVP flag optional. There was never an intention of a NO PVP PVE server here. Also, if that is the case, there should be NO PVP rewards or vendors on those self described PVE ONLY servers. You want PVP rewards, PVP for it or do not get them at all.

I could easily live with no PvP vendors at all on my shard, I play Rift for PvE and I couldn't care less about PvP. But alas that's not how it is.
Besides what you all fail to consider is that many (me included) had PvP flag off - easy mode daily quests to grind our Order of the Eye rep, the only ones getting punished are the new players, getting repeatedly ganked on the only quests that give this rep will do not much to keep them playing, trust me.

So I propose to nerf all PvP gear to make it useless for PvE, and similarilly nerf all PvE gear to make it useless for PvP. Perfect separation. Me happy and PvP'ers too, although I'm sure the PvP chimps will start flinging crap at me anyway because reason is not their strong suit.

W.

[Naesraen]

Wow a non troll answer, I'm delighted.
I just can't agree that the PvP and PvE gear crossover is irrelevant. If you want to excel in PvE you are kinda forced to endure this kind of crap.
(New trinket, BiS boot rune)

On a PvE server there shouldn't even be PvP AT all, except maybe friendly duels. And PvP gear should NEVER be better than PvE gear (FOR PvE), that crossover you deem irrelevant is not for me at least.

W.

Me, personally: I was glad for this change. However, it's not as bad as you think (or as good as I think) - you are only auto-flagged for doing 1 of the 3 dailies, the collection quest. if you do the 2 daily killing quests, you still won't flag.

So if you don't want to flag for PvP for doing PvP daily quests, your daily prestige and favour gain has been nerfed 33%; it is STILL possible, however, to gear up for PvP without ever PvPing - it's just slower now.

[Woor]

Me, personally: I was glad for this change. However, it's not as bad as you think (or as good as I think) - you are only auto-flagged for doing 1 of the 3 dailies, the collection quest. if you do the 2 daily killing quests, you still won't flag.

So if you don't want to flag for PvP for doing PvP daily quests, your daily prestige and favour gain has been nerfed 33%; it is STILL possible, however, to gear up for PvP without ever PvPing - it's just slower now.

If that is indeed true it's good news indeed, will check as soon as I can

W.

[Pricia]

I could easily live with no PvP vendors at all on my shard, I play Rift for PvE and I couldn't care less about PvP. But alas that's not how it is.

So I propose to nerf all PvP gear to make it useless for PvE, and similarilly nerf all PvE gear to make it useless for PvP. Perfect separation. Me happy and PvP'ers too, although I'm sure the PvP chimps will start flinging crap at me anyway because reason is not their strong suit.

W.

Yes please.

I'm rank 40 so I've been pvping quite a bit, but it's just irritating. I absolutely don't understand why they don't just put vengeance instead of SP/AP on the pvp stuff. Most people I know did the order of the eye rep for the feet enchant... why there isn't an equivalent one in pve is beyond me (we have one that is sorta as good, but not as good). So you're pretty much forced to pvp if you want to get the best stuff. Don't even get me started on the new Conquest trinket.

Plus it's easier to pvp than to find a guild capable of clearing ID, if you ask me.

[Kyera]

So I propose to nerf all PvP gear to make it useless for PvE, and similarilly nerf all PvE gear to make it useless for PvP. Perfect separation. Me happy and PvP'ers too, although I'm sure the PvP chimps will start flinging crap at me anyway because reason is not their strong suit.

If you're fine with that, that's fine, but until that happens, don't complain that you have to PvP to get PvE BIS unless you're also going to complain that PvP folks have to PvE to get PvP BIS (crystals, trinkets, and weapons, primarily).

Plus it's easier to pvp than to find a guild capable of clearing ID, if you ask me.

Good thing 98.3% of the PvP gear isn't ID-tier, then (oh noes, a trinket).

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