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    Quote Originally Posted by Flashmemory View Post
    He is kind of right. I am all for balance and even having a cleric too. The healing/dps is a bit lol..compared to other class. CAB can do tons of damage too. Tons more than warrior unless they have dedicated pocket heals.
    I am kind of right! Validation! Nerf bat Cometh. Good point on the heals btw.

    You guys need to sort warfront results by heals taken. Divide damage done by heals taken and then compare ratio. I just don't think balance should be a warrior requiring a pocket healer to do anything. This makes the existence of these type of hybrid specs even more game breaking.

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    Cabicar has never been game breaking and most likely never will be. If you don't look at the scoreboard at the end of the game you probably wouldn't even notice they were there a good amount of the time.

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    He's just trying to distract you from how overpowered Warriors are.
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    Am I the only one to realize that Majorin and Mekenna are both the same person, And that posts like these terrible attemps at manipulation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majorin View Post
    I don't mind dps or heals in pvp obviously. I do have an issue with the combination of the two in certain classes. No class should have good damage and good heals in the same spec. When I say heals I am referring to abilities that heal other players in addition to yourself.

    Please nerf hybrid heal/dps specs. I don't mind when a cleric leads a warfront in damage if s good player. I do have an issue when this cleric does 500k damage but also 300k heals in the same spec and not swapping. To put in perspective a warrior can do 500k damage and have 10k self heals in the same match.

    After countless warfronts I believe this needs to be looked. The overpowered aspect to the hybrids will be more pronounced and broken if the game has larger battles with more people like Conquest. Please tone this down for the good of the game and balanced pvp.
    I agree, you need to change it. For example - Even the best rogue has no chance of winning against this noob clerik build. He can hit and heals at the same time ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mekenna View Post
    He has a good point. Why should a class have high heals and dps in the same spec? I am a cleric and only heal in pvp. In pve I believe there is a place for hybrids. But in pvp it needs to be removed. It is honestly to overpowered.

    Also, he has a good point. There are several nerf warrior threads on the forum. I agree that nerfing warriors is stupid and unneccesary but if people want to complain about warriors they can complain about hybrid heals.
    I am sorry Mekenna but something is just so not right with you bud.....I think it is one or more of the following:
    1) He is all about protecting the op of warriors because he obviously must have one he is attached to in wf to protect him so he can only heal the warrior and himself. I am betting his hps suck big time in wf.
    2) He is not really a cleric but trying to pretend he is to cover that he really is a warrior.
    3) He is massively jelly that he gets out healed on a regular basis by hybrid clerics.

    In case you missed the memo clerics got nerfed hard core the last few patches to the point where you probably see what maybe 10% of what used to run in wf?? yeah

    You all need to leave clerics alone. There is already such a shortage of them for pve and pvp that when warriors do get their nerfsmack they will wish they had clerics to try to keep them up.

    Just sad that warriors and warrior sympathizers are trying to devert the attention away from the obvious that they need a nerf.


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    I don't care if a cleric does the same damage as a warrior. I disagree with the fact that it heals at the sametime. How is this so hard to understand.

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    And our well known dev said that they don't want to change the -icar mechanics. Can you beleive that we are, clerics locked down into healing because people like you complain everytimes about us ? I've not rolled a cleric for healing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majorin View Post
    I don't care if a cleric does the same damage as a warrior. I disagree with the fact that it heals at the sametime. How is this so hard to understand.
    How is it so hard to understand that the heals aren't enough to save anyone?

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    At least this spec of cleric has no choice but to heal you unless he turns rep off.... LOL.. You forgot to mention he has more shielding damage than he heals..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Majorin View Post
    I don't care if a cleric does the same damage as a warrior. I disagree with the fact that it heals at the sametime. How is this so hard to understand.
    Ummm yeah, if hybrid icar clerics are out dps ing you on your warrior?? That sir is a l2p issue on your end. Hybrid clerics come no where near the dps of a warrior, unless said warrior is a bad bad baddie.

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    Protecting the OP state of warriors? Why is it okay for a Mage or rogue to kill me but not a warrior. They all do the same damage. I just don't like the idea of nerfing something that is not broken. So I said something. The value of pvp is based on balance and the quality of classes in the game. Warriors are good and most of us appreciate it.

    I am just questioning whether it makes sense for hybrid classes to have high heals and dps in pvp. I think he has a point but not necessarily advocating a nerf. Just seemed like a logical statement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariachi View Post
    Am I the only one to realize that Majorin and Mekenna are both the same person, And that posts like these terrible attempts at manipulation
    I also think that they are the same person, and he's even too clueless to disguise his writing style better. But then, what would you expect from somebody that posts three different "nerf this" messages in three days. The guy is either a really lame troll, or he is one of the least skilled warriors in the game, or he's directing sarcasm toward all of the nerf warrior posts. He doesn't sound smart enough to be doing that last one, though, so I'm expecting to see his "bards need a nerf" version next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majorin View Post
    I don't care if a cleric does the same damage as a warrior. I disagree with the fact that it heals at the sametime. How is this so hard to understand.
    Because Clerics don't do the same damage as warriors. No class does.
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    A cleric dps/healer hybrid will not impact the charts sorry. They may seem balanced but they will not impact dps nor heals. I do not recommend it unless it is for fun or experimentation. Protip: Either go tank, heal, or dps all the way if you are a cleric. I don't know maybe the upcoming 4th soul might change that but until then forget it.
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