In the 50's bracket, it's expected that you should know your class and have the gear in a sink or swim PvP tank full of experienced sharks.
r40 puzzlybox <rise of mayhem> whoo whoo
r40 pizzabox wheeeeeeeee
puzzlebox + apoth = <3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lL4L4Uv5rf0
"We are not all equal." Ok fair enough.
"If everyone had the same opportunity to become become successful/rich/whatever, some would and some wouldn't." Wait, hold on there. First of all, you said /whatever, which can mean anything at all in the world. So if given the opportunity, some wouldn't take it no matter what? Even if it was the thing they wanted most in life, aka: /whatever? Already the premise of your entire opinion shows logical holes. People are different, that is true, but the root of what they want is the same: Things like dreams and goals.
"the same holds true in MMO's." And then we get the good 'ole compare-MMOs-to-real-life-magical-leap. Guess what? Games are inherently about fun and would lose a huge chunk of what makes them fun if they reflected reality. Life - though it can entail the same goals - involves things like desperation and pain that are not intended as part of what makes a game a game.
And now for what you could have just said without the nonsense:
Fair is fair, people can be different, but you can't go around defining things by your preference and expect others to comply.
You do realize, right, that PvE is competitive too? Players just compete with each other? Yet there is an entire "class" of PvEer that cares little for the competition and is there to enjoy the game as they can? Preferences do vary, indeed, and they won't always be in line with what you want.
Yes, PVE is competitive....the difference is the goal in PVE is progression, the goal in PVP is being able to beat other players. I don't expect people to comply to my preference. I do however expext people to understand that this is basically a gear based game and that someone with better gear should in most cases be able to beat you. The solution to this, is get better gear. Not change the game to cater to every little cry baby.
I don't think people who don't appreciate my style should go away. I think they should spend the time and effort to make a decent toon instead of expecting Trion/Their parents/Society/The world to make everything "fair" for them. Like I said, everyone has the ability to make a twink. It's not my fault that I spent the time and effort to grind to 50, grind the rep, gather the mats, craft the gear and buy consumable and someone else didn't.
As for the rich/successful/whatever....ok yes, I see you point. I didn't mean for that to be so vague, but yes...given the opportunity, some people would take it, and some people wouldn't.
Twinking doesn't do anyone one lick of good when you have no one left to compete against.
Here is a simple truth.
If you want to play competitive PvP play it in the level 50 bracket.
Leave the sub 50s for the new/levelers. That is all.
And yes a casual gamer can get to R40. I play about 1-2 hrs a night during the week and maybe 5 hrs over the weekend, and I have one P40, one P34, and one P11
This change is good overall for the game, and will only annoy a few people overall.
I can twink if I wanted to, I just choose to play competitive PvP where it belongs. In the 50 bracket.
Twinking is the same thing as going to a level 30 zone as a level 50 and one GCD kill a newb. Defending it only makes you look like a cyber bully. And how lame is that.
I think before you jump on the anti-twink band wagon, you must like to take in that most players that have, or should I say had, level locked toons, also have levels 50's, hell most even have rank 40's.
And you're calling level 50 PvP competitive? Really? Do you have raid weapons? Do you run in a pre-made? Wow you're not scared you'll chase away new level 50's if you do are you? Cause I'm sure you're aware, that due to most PvP punters being fed up, with such lame PvP, matched warfronts are rarer than hens teeth.
Low level warfronts were actually a lot more evenly matched, than most matches you'll have at 50. The gear disparity, providing players had gear in slots was nowhere near the same extreme, as it is at 50.
PvP is competitive. It is competitive at all levels. Players than can not gear up for the occasion, deserve to bite the dust hard, and often.
You know what. Don't feel special. I have 2 r40's, a r33 or something, and a r13. And the best PvP I have had, in this game, was locked in lower level warfronts. Honestly leads me to believe that most of the players that have cried the loudest never even zoned into a lower level match. But, I can bet they're from WoW.
1) Succeed via a passive gear advantage.
2) Succeed by actively learning and by becoming more skilled.
Which of these options you prefer says a lot about how you approach a lot of things in life, I think.
Yes I feel its competitive. Even in the lower ranks I always felt I contributed something. I always ran some sort of support spec. My P11 Mage always, runs Arch/Chloro. I die. ALOT but I also feel like I'm doing something to help. I try to run objectives. I have been in many warfronts where we one with good team play.
Last edited by Leoknife; 05-24-2012 at 09:56 AM.
Don't you people read the patch notes?
Xp lock is now removed.
Twinks will be a thing of the past with patch 1.9