Rogue Sab

[Costs]

OMG! The purple name did 360k+ damage. SO OP!

Actually, look at his heals too ... together that makes Clerics cry.

[Baramos]

I haz bg screenshots too

Defiants had 7 healers and nothing was dying!

http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/...s37/bg119m.png

Random bg from last week. Top four dmg all different classes which are all over 347k. Nerf all classes.

http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/...s37/bg815k.png

[Costs]

I haz bg screenshots too

Defiants had 7 healers and nothing was dying!

http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/...s37/bg119m.png

Random bg from last week. Top four dmg all different classes which are all over 347k. Nerf all classes.

http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/...s37/bg815k.png

Lol, I broke 800k in a BG yesterday and I thought I was godly ... these shots put me to shame.

[Puzzlebox]

Lol, I broke 800k in a BG yesterday and I thought I was godly ... these shots put me to shame.

If there's a clump, Tryannicus is already there raining holy heaven on it.

[Aiolos]

Still shell shocked by the amount of damage and silence a Saboteur can inflict, all from large range and no casting time. Was checking my gear to see if I mistakenly didn't have any non-valor stuff on.

5...4...3... *looking for a place to hide*

[Misun]

Still shell shocked by the amount of damage and silence a Saboteur can inflict, all from large range and no casting time. Was checking my gear to see if I mistakenly didn't have any non-valor stuff on.

5...4...3... *looking for a place to hide*

The damage is expected, I can deal with that...however, I'm starting to become very annoyed with the aoe silence, over and over again. It doesn't appear as though it's affected by the the DR at all?

I will have to monitor my combat logs more closely next time and figure out what the deal is.

[Sinical Healer]

The damage is expected, I can deal with that...however, I'm starting to become very annoyed with the aoe silence, over and over again. It doesn't appear as though it's affected by the the DR at all?

I will have to monitor my combat logs more closely next time and figure out what the deal is.

I see IMMUNE pop up plenty when I toss an AoE silence out, it definitely is affected by DR.

[Misun]

I see IMMUNE pop up plenty when I toss an AoE silence out, it definitely is affected by DR.

Ok, thanks for replying!

[Nissassa]

sab is fine, I play sab and often finish in the top 2 for overall dmg, I keep seeng this thing about nerfed warriors, lol, If a warrior targets me and my stuff is on GCD I'm toast. If I see a warrior called Demosaurus in the warfront he makes my life miserable because he has the intelligence to make sure I'm top priority after clerics.

[Emanresu]

Just did a warfront. Yes, the nerf to warriors and Rift Storm was garbage but a Rogue Sab got 347k damage in Black Garden. The next highest damage was a mage from the same team who like 80k. I was next at 70k as a warrior. I was being focused healed by two clerics (who are good). The rogue AOE damage was killing everything to the point of breaking the game.

Nice job Trion. You nerf warriors but leave something this overpowered and broke in the game. Also, the rogue did this at ranged. His AOE is higher then warriors Rift Storm pre-nerf and applied at range. Embarrassing really and a trend for a company that ruins the pvp experience for the majority of the player base in order to appease a minority on the forums.

When will you nerf Rogue Sabs. Look at the numbers. Use your brains and stats for once when making a balance decision. For the rest of us we can only hope the new releases have a developer group that respects the player base and does things for the betterment of the game.

This is a warrior complaining about damage in pvp. Why has anyone even bothered to reply to this? Warriors have ZERO to complain about.

[Mako482]

If I post a Sab with a ton of damage and KB's, my AoE damage and detonate timing stole the KBs. If I post massive damage and little KBs, I did fluff damage and nobody considers that I made other targets easier for everyone else to score KBs on. You have it preconceived that a Sab sucks and will take any evidence and make it support that notion. I've thought about presenting varied cases to you in regard to it. People talk about AoE damage like it's some terrible newb thing but guess what - if you are pvping and theres 5 - 10+ people all standing in proximity, you are a terrible newb if you are now blowing up on aoe specs. Sab does get a lot of KBs, I sometimes perform as good or better on my Sab now as I did on my MM. Situational.

I just like how people say the guy who did 2 - 3x the damage of the next person was the newb. I don't know, seems to be if I had 10 people in my Scion team doing 2 million "fluff newb aoe" damage then we'd rock them pretty hard. But no, it's more pro to have 1 guy soaring at 2m damage meanwhile the others are 1/4 the damage behind. I'd take everyone but the guy with an absurd amount of damage first. /rolleyes.

Just sayin dude, it is not a common thing like some other builds that get 200+ damage and 20+ kills consistently due to flat out smashing faces. SAB is fine.

[Credo]

Just did a warfront. Yes, the nerf to warriors and Rift Storm was garbage but a Rogue Sab got 347k damage in Black Garden. The next highest damage was a mage from the same team who like 80k. I was next at 70k as a warrior. I was being focused healed by two clerics (who are good). The rogue AOE damage was killing everything to the point of breaking the game.

Nice job Trion. You nerf warriors but leave something this overpowered and broke in the game. Also, the rogue did this at ranged. His AOE is higher then warriors Rift Storm pre-nerf and applied at range. Embarrassing really and a trend for a company that ruins the pvp experience for the majority of the player base in order to appease a minority on the forums.

When will you nerf Rogue Sabs. Look at the numbers. Use your brains and stats for once when making a balance decision. For the rest of us we can only hope the new releases have a developer group that respects the player base and does things for the betterment of the game.

Interpretation:
My team was dumb enough to stand in a dense group, die over and over again, and not attack the Rogue throwing charges at them.

[Violacea]

Just sayin dude, it is not a common thing like some other builds that get 200+ damage and 20+ kills consistently due to flat out smashing faces. SAB is fine.

I never said Sab isn't fine. But Sab blowing up crowds and getting massve KB/Damage relative to others is a common thing in AoE heavy situations. That is perfectly fine, it's an AoE soul.

The point of the post you quoted was that if people want to think a Sab sucks, they can interpret almost any testimony of Sab performance/gameplay negatively to say they suck and are not a good choice. Further point is, they are a top dog aoe soul right now. Long awaited time because prior to this update they were hardly even good enough when everyone clumped up. They got pretty low.

Plus, if sab isn't smashing faces cause of AoE circumstances, MM goes pretty hard and performs just as good for it's own situations. I don't do NB much but when I get on a roll 51 NB wrecks pretty hard too.

All the souls work to a degree. Ranger kinda sucks. Bard is getting archaic, but buffs well. Rest are not bad at all imo. Just not all best in the same moments.

[pocketemu]

If I post a Sab with a ton of damage and KB's, my AoE damage and detonate timing stole the KBs. If I post massive damage and little KBs, I did fluff damage and nobody considers that I made other targets easier for everyone else to score KBs on. You have it preconceived that a Sab sucks and will take any evidence and make it support that notion. I've thought about presenting varied cases to you in regard to it. People talk about AoE damage like it's some terrible newb thing but guess what - if you are pvping and theres 5 - 10+ people all standing in proximity, you are a terrible newb if you are now blowing up on aoe specs. Sab does get a lot of KBs, I sometimes perform as good or better on my Sab now as I did on my MM. Situational.

I just like how people say the guy who did 2 - 3x the damage of the next person was the newb. I don't know, seems to be if I had 10 people in my Scion team doing 2 million "fluff newb aoe" damage then we'd rock them pretty hard. But no, it's more pro to have 1 guy soaring at 2m damage meanwhile the others are 1/4 the damage behind. I'd take everyone but the guy with an absurd amount of damage first. /rolleyes.

i would say that more damage can be fluff at times...but when you do 700k and the next has like 380k its more than fluff damage. fates and i qued some bgs for the hell of it the other day and the amount of aoe they put out with him solo heal had him oomed several times causing whole team wipes sometimes.
yes aoe can be fluff damage but with heals lessened and damage increased aoe can be a game winner when applied enough. fanout and sab bombs everywhere start to make a dent, mainly the 4 piece hk sab ones. not everyone is smart enough to kill them first

[Violacea]

I agree with y'all quoting me. The satire is thick.

And I still can't imagine 4pc hk sabs. My sab gets destroyed faster than any other soul in full armor. I've played a few WF's with 4pc hk+ wearing sabs on my team. They never out-perform me though. Maybe it's a mix of them sucking or them literally being the only person who manages to die more than me. I'm banking more on them sucking. But man it must take just a breath of air to die. Cause Right now a gust of wind kills me.