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    Quote Originally Posted by Majorin View Post
    Warriors do more damage then clerics. Yes, but in warfronts Warriors have less surviability.




    Trion. Fix it. Warriors need a substantial buff and it is time reason, logic, and the goal of a quality game override biased forum posts from baddies that want to nerf every class around them so they can be OP broken.
    Really? Because my survivability has been shot all to hell and back.

    You can spout this crap all day long, but I'm seeing first hand how ridiculous this is..and so are a lot of other people. In nearly every single wf I've been in lately, someone has mentioned it.

    The fact that you actually seem to think that warriors need to be buffed is amusing. So let me get this straight; you can only faceroll if you're getting heals? True facts: really good warriors have no problem blowing through targets without healing.

    We all want the game to be fun and challenging...not one or 2 classes that are pwning the rest of everyone else.

    I will say that I think this POS cc system they have going on is the root of a lot of these problems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetSeoul View Post
    As a healer, I too would like to see more survivability for Warriors.

    This is just anecdotal of course, but since the patch it seems it's a lot more difficult to heal Warriors and keep them up. Good Warriors are up front taking all the hits for their team and taking the focus off their own team's squishies. Give them more survivability. Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misun View Post
    Really? Because my survivability has been shot all to hell and back.

    You can spout this crap all day long, but I'm seeing first hand how ridiculous this is..and so are a lot of other people. In nearly every single wf I've been in lately, someone has mentioned it.

    The fact that you actually seem to think that warriors need to be buffed is amusing. So let me get this straight; you can only faceroll if you're getting heals? True facts: really good warriors have no problem blowing through targets without healing.

    We all want the game to be fun and challenging...not one or 2 classes that are pwning the rest of everyone else.

    I will say that I think this POS cc system they have going on is the root of a lot of these problems.

    OMG...

    Misun Ultimate Quote: The fact that you actually seem to think that warriors need to be buffed is amusing. So let me get this straight; you can only faceroll if you're getting heals? True facts: really good warriors have no problem blowing through targets without healing.


    Honestly, you discredited yourself so much with that statement alone.... The only thing amusing is your ignorance towards the game. A warrior cannot faceroll a group of players without a healer. No class can.. except for mage and rogue lol. Stop lieing.

    The facts, the game, the stats, the results of warfronts, the leaderboards, and good pvp players are proving you wrong over and over again. It comes a point when you need to accept the fact you are wrong. Warriors need a buff to dps and defense to be competitive in PVP. Accept it and move on. Ask the developers for a warrior buff because having class balance only increases the enjoyment for all players. Maybe not you but there really is nothing Trion or we can do for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majorin View Post
    OMG...

    Misun Ultimate Quote: The fact that you actually seem to think that warriors need to be buffed is amusing. So let me get this straight; you can only faceroll if you're getting heals? True facts: really good warriors have no problem blowing through targets without healing.


    Honestly, you discredited yourself so much with that statement alone.... The only thing amusing is your ignorance towards the game. A warrior cannot faceroll a group of players without a healer. No class can.. except for mage and rogue lol. Stop lieing.

    The facts, the game, the stats, the results of warfronts, the leaderboards, and good pvp players are proving you wrong over and over again. It comes a point when you need to accept the fact you are wrong. Warriors need a buff to dps and defense to be competitive in PVP. Accept it and move on. Ask the developers for a warrior buff because having class balance only increases the enjoyment for all players. Maybe not you but there really is nothing Trion or we can do for you.
    you just havent met good wars, i cant name off about 5 wars i kno who can easily kill at minimum 3 oponents by themselves of equal rank before going down. I witnessed it time and time again. IF you cant do the same the problem lies with you. And furthermore no mage is going to KILL a group of ppl by himself unless they are REALLY bad or undergeared, especially if that group contained a war, cleric, rogue, or equally skilled mage, oh wait thats all the classes. I can kite 5+ ppl and not die but im not killing anybody in the process.

    A wars only trouble is a nb and even then ive seem some pretty nasty wars hold their own against multiple of them. Actually names that comes to mind is Cayled and Infuego; their both defiant and im guardian so im not just spewing bias opinions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Queezy View Post
    you just havent met good wars, i cant name off about 5 wars i kno who can easily kill at minimum 3 oponents by themselves of equal rank before going down. I witnessed it time and time again. IF you cant do the same the problem lies with you. And furthermore no mage is going to KILL a group of ppl by himself unless they are REALLY bad or undergeared, especially if that group contained a war, cleric, rogue, or equally skilled mage, oh wait thats all the classes. I can kite 5+ ppl and not die but im not killing anybody in the process.

    A wars only trouble is a nb and even then ive seem some pretty nasty wars hold their own against multiple of them. Actually names that comes to mind is Cayled and Infuego; their both defiant and im guardian so im not just spewing bias opinions.
    Note: Go check the leaderboards. Check warfront stats. In pvp group play a warrior will do nothing without heals because they are glass cannon with no survivability. Also, warrior damage is in melee range so they are gimped. Mages are powerful in groups because they have a lot of burst and can apply damage at 30 meters. This is why they are doing some much damage in warfronts. lol. Pay attention.

    You cannot create the lie that warriors are steamrolling everything without heals because they are not. Accept that that Warrior class needs a buff to dps and defense and move on. Lets argue for a better game and not one that is more out of wack and unbalanced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majorin View Post
    OMG...

    Misun Ultimate Quote: The fact that you actually seem to think that warriors need to be buffed is amusing. So let me get this straight; you can only faceroll if you're getting heals? True facts: really good warriors have no problem blowing through targets without healing.


    Honestly, you discredited yourself so much with that statement alone.... The only thing amusing is your ignorance towards the game. A warrior cannot faceroll a group of players without a healer. No class can.. except for mage and rogue lol. Stop lieing.

    The facts, the game, the stats, the results of warfronts, the leaderboards, and good pvp players are proving you wrong over and over again. It comes a point when you need to accept the fact you are wrong. Warriors need a buff to dps and defense to be competitive in PVP. Accept it and move on. Ask the developers for a warrior buff because having class balance only increases the enjoyment for all players. Maybe not you but there really is nothing Trion or we can do for you.
    My warrior can gets lots of kills and lead warfront damage but it requires a full time and dedicated healer.
    And I said:

    True facts: really good warriors have no problem blowing through targets without healing.
    I said targets...not groups.

    Sure, they die eventually, of course.

    What I'm seeing from you is this-

    1) you think warriors need a heals, like clerics.

    2) you think warrior damage needs to be buffed (lol)

    3) you're only good in wf's if you have a pocket healer.

    4) you can't beat mages or rogues, thus you consider them both OP.

    I seem to remember you making pretty much the same complaints in another game too. In that game, you constantly complained about casters and witch hunters (because witch hunters had stealth)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majorin View Post
    Note: Go check the leaderboards.
    Nobody cares about /played.

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    Check warfront stats.
    No body cares about /played
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    In pvp group play a warrior will do nothing without heals because they are glass cannon with no survivability.
    pyro/dom doesn't have any healing capability.
    Neither does 51 pyro.

    Quote Originally Posted by Majorin View Post
    Also, warrior damage is in melee range so they are gimped.
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    Mages are powerful in groups
    They do terribly in 5v5
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    because they have a lot of burst
    So do warriors
    [QUOTE=Majorin;3777197] and can apply damage at 30 meters./quote]
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    This is why they are doing some much damage in warfronts.
    So do warriors
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    lol. Pay attention.
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    You cannot create the lie that warriors are steamrolling everything without heals because they are not.
    I'll remember that while getting hit by riftstorm and every other OGCD and reactive abilities warriors possess.
    While they RW.

    Quote Originally Posted by Majorin View Post
    Accept that that Warrior class needs a buff to dps
    Funny.
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    and defense
    Funnier.
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    and move on.
    No
    Quote Originally Posted by Majorin View Post
    Lets argue for a better game and not one that is more out of wack and unbalanced.
    ...
    I don't think you care for balance so much as you care for warriors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majorin View Post
    OMG...

    Misun Ultimate Quote: The fact that you actually seem to think that warriors need to be buffed is amusing. So let me get this straight; you can only faceroll if you're getting heals? True facts: really good warriors have no problem blowing through targets without healing.


    Honestly, you discredited yourself so much with that statement alone.... The only thing amusing is your ignorance towards the game. A warrior cannot faceroll a group of players without a healer. No class can.. except for mage and rogue lol. Stop lieing.

    The facts, the game, the stats, the results of warfronts, the leaderboards, and good pvp players are proving you wrong over and over again. It comes a point when you need to accept the fact you are wrong. Warriors need a buff to dps and defense to be competitive in PVP. Accept it and move on. Ask the developers for a warrior buff because having class balance only increases the enjoyment for all players. Maybe not you but there really is nothing Trion or we can do for you.
    ZOMG, A good warrior can. A good anything can. A healer just prolongs it.

    Seriously, can we stop pretending the leaderboards have any actual relevance to anything, other than time played.


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    Lol. I know leaderboards don't matter when they convey the wrong message. Anyways, the only thing OP right now are rogues or mages. It is interesting that nothing matters to you baddies except a biased and selfish drive to nerf other classes into the ground.

    Stop. Finally, plead buff warriors please Trion. Numbers don't lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majorin View Post
    Lol. I know leaderboards don't matter when they convey the wrong message. Anyways, the only thing OP right now are rogues or mages. It is interesting that nothing matters to you baddies except a biased and selfish drive to nerf other classes into the ground.

    Stop. Finally, plead buff warriors please Trion. Numbers don't lie.
    Just give it a rest..even I'm embarrassed for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majorin View Post
    Lol. I know leaderboards don't matter when they convey the wrong message. Anyways, the only thing OP right now are rogues or mages. It is interesting that nothing matters to you baddies except a biased and selfish drive to nerf other classes into the ground.

    Stop. Finally, plead buff warriors please Trion. Numbers don't lie.
    Yes yes, we're all bad except for you... the only warrior... claiming he needs to be buffed.

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    you can't solely look at total damage numbers because right now warriors are killing people before they can get heals =p

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    Warriors are hard to bot thats why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Majorin View Post
    Note: Go check the leaderboards. Check warfront stats. In pvp group play a warrior will do nothing without heals because they are glass cannon with no survivability. Also, warrior damage is in melee range so they are gimped. Mages are powerful in groups because they have a lot of burst and can apply damage at 30 meters. This is why they are doing some much damage in warfronts. lol. Pay attention.

    You cannot create the lie that warriors are steamrolling everything without heals because they are not. Accept that that Warrior class needs a buff to dps and defense and move on. Lets argue for a better game and not one that is more out of wack and unbalanced.
    Just because you can't handle it doesn't necessarily mean Warriors are gimp. That's under the assumption you're good. You're probably not. You're probably average. I wouldn't be surprised if you were garbage either. I'm not amazing either, but I don't ask for buffs to bring me up to the level of superior players.

    Look at the Skavok's, the Infuego's, and the handful of other Kraken Spine toting Warriors who absolutely push my **** in when I'm on my mage. They could be receiving some barely serviceable splash heals of a P1 clicking Cleric and they'll go to work on the other team, dedicated pocket healer or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Burton View Post
    Lol warriors saying l2p. It's remarkable how much more skill all these warriors developed once 1.8 was released.

    Bad post is bad
    teste has always been competitive and a thorn in someone's side. He would still wreck face if warriors didnt have blanket LW on everything + their insane burst dmg + mobility.
    Last edited by ShalarLight; 05-08-2012 at 09:17 AM.


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