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    Quote Originally Posted by Fariic View Post
    Get a grip.

    lvl 12 and 18 pvp items + rare planar gear that you buy with sourcestones and planarite from doing rifts and events. (and maybe a piece of crafted gear or two.)

    ANYONE can get that gear, and that's going to be the best gear to get in the 10-19 bracket.
    To top it off, you can't enchant most of it, becuase it's all non-level gear and the level 18 enchants require that the gear actually have a lvl 18 requirement in order to use the rune on it.

    Best weapon you can get is in your starting zone and can be got after doing one invasion event.

    It takes minimul effort to get the best gear in any level range.
    Even easier if you have a main that has the sourcestones and never used them, buy a voucher with themand send the voucher to an alt.

    You people act like there's such a thing as twinking in Rfit. This isn't WoW, you don't have to have a second account, you don't have to have a max level toon, you don't have to have hundreds of plat, you don't have to have a friend farm dungeons for you. You only need to do the content that EVERYONE ELSE CAN DO, and PURHCASE THE GEAR THAT EVERYONE ELSE CAN PURCHASE, using the SAME MARKS AND STONES THAT EVERYONE ELSE GETS from doing the content THAT EVERYONE ELSE CAN DO.

    Learn how the game works before you start crying about getting beat BY TWO PEOPLE in pvp.
    Really? You're a lvl 18 mage and got killed by a rogue and a warrior? Lol@you.
    Don't try to say there's not, it may not be to the extent that you can in WoW, but even i could really gear out an alt with a bunch of top end crafted gear with valor on it.

    People done it before the XP lock, it just stands out a bit more now that those same people stay in the bracket they find the easiest to farm new players with. Only thing you can do is gear the best you can for each bracket or grind on to 50 and start playing the game.

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    OK as i am an experinced Twinker. The best bracket for anyone to twink in. is 30-39. Do you need a reason? ok here they is. lvl 32 = 1-6 craftable Rare quallity items from any profession for most or all toons. then at lvl 38 you can get all your other slots filled with craftable rare items. So if u hate life in the 10-19 bracket from twinks just wait till you get to the 30-39 bracket. ill be there waiting to beat most of you so bad hopefully you quit the game. tweet your friends about how bad u got beat. call your mom up tell her u miss her and wanna come back home.


    Thanks and im ready for more trolls on this forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RazorBurn View Post
    OK as i am an experinced Twinker. The best bracket for anyone to twink in. is 30-39. Do you need a reason? ok here they is. lvl 32 = 1-6 craftable Rare quallity items from any profession for most or all toons. then at lvl 38 you can get all your other slots filled with craftable rare items. So if u hate life in the 10-19 bracket from twinks just wait till you get to the 30-39 bracket. ill be there waiting to beat most of you so bad hopefully you quit the game. tweet your friends about how bad u got beat. call your mom up tell her u miss her and wanna come back home.


    Thanks and im ready for more trolls on this forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Licentia View Post
    Some twinks are bad. They're usually not hard to kill because mashing buttons in good gear is still just mashing buttons. The good twinks that obliterate you would probably have killed you regardless of gear.
    I just remember pre-50 PvP was kinda of fun and can see that for many people that fun is going to disappear if they are consistantly put up against twinks, it doesn't really matter if the twinked player is poor, average or good, they are going to be able to beat most non-twinked players making pre-50 PvP less fun, especially for new players and those who haven't PvPed before. Twinks are especially bad in a game where levelling is so quick that is doesn't make sense to max out gear that will be gone in the next day or two.

    Frankly it seems a bizarre move by Trion, you see the comment a lot on this forum that PvP was fun pre-50, yet they've decided to unbalance the bit of PvP that was generally liked in an apparent effort to put new players off PvP...
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    Quote Originally Posted by RazorBurn View Post
    ill be there waiting to beat most of you so bad hopefully you quit the game.
    That should improve queue times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluntmaster View Post
    That should improve queue times.
    Kids will be kids.

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    Used to be you could put more than one boa essence in a sigil, whereas now you can only put one. There are boa neck and head pieces the newcomers cannot currently acquire. Furthermore, who in their right mind is going to craft gear with flawless for their low level toon who isn't xp locked? Twinking is very much alive and possible. Heck, remember the Beacon of Sanity we got at level 12 from the old treasure bags? What was it, something like 149sp? Those were some nice staff drops as we leveled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flimble View Post
    I just remember pre-50 PvP was kinda of fun and can see that for many people that fun is going to disappear if they are consistantly put up against twinks, it doesn't really matter if the twinked player is poor, average or good, they are going to be able to beat most non-twinked players making pre-50 PvP less fun, especially for new players and those who haven't PvPed before. Twinks are especially bad in a game where levelling is so quick that is doesn't make sense to max out gear that will be gone in the next day or two.

    Frankly it seems a bizarre move by Trion, you see the comment a lot on this forum that PvP was fun pre-50, yet they've decided to unbalance the bit of PvP that was generally liked in an apparent effort to put new players off PvP...
    Not to be derogatory, but in essence what people were saying is that they liked PvP in the leveling bracket because they didn't have to worry about going up against much of a challenge. People at the lower end of a bracket's level spread are typically very easy to kill when you're at the top of the bracket. They get bolstered HP but they don't get the benefit of skills trained at the higher levels. People in outdated quest greens are typically very easy to kill when you've hit the level where you can grab some blues/epics from puzzles and cairns they can't open the bags from yet.

    I got a chance to check out one of the more notorious warrior twinks in the 30-39 bracket tonight. Epic armor all over, but a lot of it was level 30 (meaning level 38 blues would be better). Epic weapon...not sure where it was from but I *think* it was a world event reward. He had obviously invested a certain amount of time into gearing his character but none of his gear was so zomfgawesome that killing him represented an insurmountable challenge. Fact of the matter is that he played very well and ALWAYS had a pocket healer.

    The bottom line is that people are often not very good at PvP and they liked it during the lower levels because they had much better chances of going up against people who were a lot easier to kill. Even baddies can score kills on players 9 levels below them, bolstered HP or not.

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    again as an experinced twink. If twinks are crafting there items theres only so many items u can craft at each 3-4 levels. like in the 10-19 bracket. i got my first craftables at lvl 12 other than the lvl 7 crap. then it was lvl 15 then 19. its the same with the other brackets. so if ur getting killed by twinks who are at the lowest level of the bracket you either need to level faster and leave the bracket before he hits the top of the bracket as thats where usually we get the last few pieces of craftable gear.

    Someone asked who in the right mind would craft gear with flawless auguments. Well when u really dont care for endgame stuff atm till more raids come out and have enough plat to say wasting 20-30 auguments isnt going to kill my pocket. i have no problem wasting auguments in my lvl 12-49 gear. i was doing it before exp lock.

    Seen another post people are saying exp lock was intended for people who want to do every quest at the level of the zone. Well i feel same way about warfronts. I love achievments. i started twinking because at one point u could join lvl 50 pvp with rank 8s there was no rank system. and to get some of those pvp achievments where impossible until rank8 so instead of that i just started making twinks.

    There were a few i could not complete by 50 like capture 100x flags. actually thats only 1. but it would be nice to finish it before 50.
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    my excuse i would like to complete every wf achievment before i leave that wf bracket.
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    I can't wait until I can get home and finally check out 1.7, xp lock the 29 and 49, run the 49 through some dungeons to check out the new stats, blow all my money on crafting the 29 some gear and have some giggles in warfronts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lagunaa View Post
    1.7 introduced the ability to "Lock XP," which is a wonderful way to give players the ability to level at their own pace and enjoy all of the leveling content that they care to experience.

    However, it has (unsurprisingly) RUINED LOW LEVEL PVP.

    I just completed some random WF's on my 18-19 mage at different times of the day...and guess what - I ran into the same twinked out, XP locked lvl 19 warriors and rogues who ran around and train wrecked everyone. It felt like a bunch of R8's vs R1's pre 1.6 change to WF Q's @ 50!

    Trion PLEASE DISABLE "Lock XP" from WF's - 10-49 PvP was THE ONLY FUN PVP in the game - now, it's worse than lvl 50 PvP.

    At the VERY LEAST - have a separate Q for XP locked characters.
    Run a few dungeons, do a few rifts... there you are twinked out yourself. Problem solved.
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    twinking is nothing new - the only difference is, now the time/plat invested in the twink(s) doesn't become wasteful after 1 evening of PvP.

    Been twinking since 1.0 - XP lock only changed the number and longevity of twinks, nothing else. The real interesting mechanic is the merc system, where a twink can be against you one match, and with you the next.

    Given how easy it is to twink in Rift - if you've taken the time to complain about it on the forums, you could have used the same amount of time to make one yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeremiahcp View Post
    Run a few dungeons, do a few rifts... there you are twinked out yourself. Problem solved.
    Sure - you are right you could do that...

    But, it doesn't solve the issue - and the issue is XP lock doesn't belong in WF's. I agree with the OP - have a separate que or turn the ability off in WF's. A large group of people who fail @ lvl 50 PvP and have to get their jollies from 2-shotting undergeared people leveling by XP locking and twinking out toons ruins the experience for the majority.

    If you want to do that, have your own separate que full of twinks and have at it. Funny thing is - if that happened 90% of the people twinking wouldn't bother - can't have a challenge, after all... where would the fun in that be!?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurrei View Post
    Sure - you are right you could do that...

    But, it doesn't solve the issue - and the issue is XP lock doesn't belong in WF's. I agree with the OP - have a separate que or turn the ability off in WF's. A large group of people who fail @ lvl 50 PvP and have to get their jollies from 2-shotting undergeared people leveling by XP locking and twinking out toons ruins the experience for the majority.

    If you want to do that, have your own separate que full of twinks and have at it. Funny thing is - if that happened 90% of the people twinking wouldn't bother - can't have a challenge, after all... where would the fun in that be!?!
    Cry some more.

    My lvl50 cleric, twinked lvl29 mage and twinked lvl39 rogue all get pretty equal pvp playtime. If you think I fail at 50 pvp you are welcome to duel me any time. I'm guessing most of the other people here with twinked alts could work you over as well. Bad is bad, regardless of the level.

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