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    Default 1.6 rank splitting details?+ lack of heals fix

    just wondering if anyone knew the details of the new rank splitting that has been incorporated? more specific details!!!!!

    i love the game and im interested in seeing some more numbers.

    for example guard/defiant pop numbers, guard/defiant pop numbers per shard, win/lose ratio's in world pvp and wfs. number of those qing for heals for both factions, and the P-ranks avg in each wf.

    i can guess the answers as well as anyone but i think knowing whats going on would be helpful.

    also off topic.. we all ***** about lack of healers in WF'S which is ok we all pay a subscription but whats everyone's idea on maybe incorporating a reward for Q-ing as heals? and then say.. if your xfer specs you lose your reward or move out of healing spec or soothing.. maybe a P vial or something like that? im sure alot of people will cry about not getting a reward as a dps but.. IM SORRY!!!! healers win WF'S not KB'S!!

    WTB MORE FELLOW HEALERS! i would love to test out my dps without feeling like crap that no one else can heal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drunkhealer View Post
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    dude! lets heal together in happiness!
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    Not everyone plays a Chloro you know.
    Chloromancer needs to watch for enemy targets, friendly targets. All their heals are on small/medium cooldowns. This creates a quite nice gameplay.

    Clerics on the other hand just watch at raid frames 24/7. That's why Clerics don't heal. Cause it's lame *** boring. They rather play something like M*A*S*H spec, because it is way more engaging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merkiba View Post
    dude! lets heal together in happiness!
    Sure , then maybe both of us can last a few more seconds by diverting their attention!!
    Last edited by Drunkhealer; 11-18-2011 at 03:03 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Qia View Post
    Not everyone plays a Chloro you know.
    Chloromancer needs to watch for enemy targets, friendly targets. All their heals are on small/medium cooldowns. This creates a quite nice gameplay.
    On the other hand, these are some of the reasons why Cleric Healers in PvP are superior. I don't mind Clerics being better at PvP healing, but I also don't think the tradeoff should be fun vs. effectiveness (if we assume your argument that 100% Raid Frame Whack-A-Mole deters healing is true)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puzzlebox View Post
    On the other hand, these are some of the reasons why Cleric Healers in PvP are superior. I don't mind Clerics being better at PvP healing, but I also don't think the tradeoff should be fun vs. effectiveness (if we assume your argument that 100% Raid Frame Whack-A-Mole deters healing is true)
    I know Cleric healing is superior. But Whack-A-Mole is what Clerics do.
    I tried Chloro and I tried Cleric healing. Chloro healing is more engaging since it requires 2 things. Enemy target and friendly target. Without observing both, Chloro just sucks.
    On the other hand Cleric only needs to watch for HP.
    Of course you can say you try to pre-heal if you suspect burst, but this wont happen most of the time, due to insane burst damage in Rift, where targets lose 50% hp in 1 GCD. You need to watch health bars 24/7.

    Not to mention the fact that Clerics are almost unkillable you can pretty much avoid a lot of position requirements.
    So in the end. If I play a Cleric healer most of the time I just watch at Health bars and nothing alse. It's not that hard to "pre-kite" so zzzzzZZZZ.
    This is why I play M*A*S*H spec. Because it is actually fun and engaging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merkiba View Post
    just wondering if anyone knew the details of the new rank splitting that has been incorporated? more specific details!!!!!

    i love the game and im interested in seeing some more numbers.

    for example guard/defiant pop numbers, guard/defiant pop numbers per shard, win/lose ratio's in world pvp and wfs. number of those qing for heals for both factions, and the P-ranks avg in each wf.

    i can guess the answers as well as anyone but i think knowing whats going on would be helpful.

    also off topic.. we all ***** about lack of healers in WF'S which is ok we all pay a subscription but whats everyone's idea on maybe incorporating a reward for Q-ing as heals? and then say.. if your xfer specs you lose your reward or move out of healing spec or soothing.. maybe a P vial or something like that? im sure alot of people will cry about not getting a reward as a dps but.. IM SORRY!!!! healers win WF'S not KB'S!!

    WTB MORE FELLOW HEALERS! i would love to test out my dps without feeling like crap that no one else can heal.
    My cleric heals, and quite often tops healing in wfs, but he does not appear as a healer due to his spec. How would he get the reward?

    If you need a reward to play a role, there is a problem, the role is not fun enough, that needs fixing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by merkiba View Post
    WTB MORE FELLOW HEALERS! i would love to test out my dps without feeling like crap that no one else can heal.
    LOL - Please more people heal so I can go DPS...... riiiiiiiiiiight.

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    I find playing a Cleric healer both fun and engaging. I've played healers in every MMO I've played and I enjoy the playstyle. It must just not be for you. I do find though that to be a good healer I need to pay attention to everything around me. That's why I prefer PvP to begin with (PvE healing is kinda boring). You can't just stand around mindless spamming stuff unless you're team is running around owning everyone in which case they probably don't really need a healer at all.
    Last edited by Leiloni; 11-18-2011 at 01:32 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anmila View Post
    LOL - Please more people heal so I can go DPS...... riiiiiiiiiiight.
    i havent dps'd 1 WF in near 5 months. no exaggeration so i can heal turds like you who wont bother rolling a healer. sorry if more healers is too much to ask for.

    and for the rewards for healers being a bad idea.. KNOWING trion, i think we can better expect a hand out then a pure class mechanic change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leiloni View Post
    I find playing a Cleric healer both fun and engaging. I've played healers in every MMO I've played and I enjoy the playstyle. It must just not be for you. I do find though that to be a good healer I need to pay attention to everything around me. That's why I prefer PvP to begin with (PvE healing is kinda boring). You can't just stand around mindless spamming stuff unless you're team is running around owning everyone in which case they probably don't really need a healer at all.
    I can't die. It's not hard at all to position yourself so the stupid defiant players attack the player closest to them. Time to killl someone is very low. One player can take 50% of Rank 8 player HP in 1 time stamp.
    It's whack-a-mole at it's highest.

    It's not that I am not a good healer. It's just that I am bored with watching at raid bars all the time and seeing players taking 50% of their HP in 1 GCD. Not to mention Black Garden/Library, which actually punish healers by constant damage from the fang.
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