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    Mages running around hitting Cinder bursts for 3062 and Fulminate 4533. I have screenshots of 3 seperate instances, and dont blame it on the damage mod in warfronts, none were buffed, and one was a duel not in warfronts. Total incidents are around 7 so far that I have seen. Either these people are using the dual weapon exploit or something is amiss. Although I have yet to be hit by a blast charge for that amount and its always mages so I assume their tree is bugged out.

    Oh and I already expect Mages to pop on here and deny everything so I will throw a couple screenshots for now and get some video footage for later. Honestly I could give a rats arse about Warriors when I have a single spell take me out. Anyways I started leveling one so I can see what normal damage will be like in all PvP 5 gear and see if maybe its just the nature of the soul to be able to one shot people. Would be cool, but going to take a while to level that high.

    Oh and in response to the "you are a baddie" reply that is probably coming, my kills and wins in WF are exceptionally high despite having issues with this one class. Anyone else relate to these particular spells or are they using a mod? Oh I forgot PC mods dont exist, right.....But seriously I am just wondering if this is legitimate damage or exploit damage. Thanks..

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    Any other mage, I'd raise an eybrow. but pyro mages have so many means of boosting fire damage, as well as generic spell damage that this seems entirely possible with the right build.

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    IC + Fulminate = ouch. Pressing them at the same time allows you to hit pretty hard lol. As said above, pyro mages can buff their primary damage abilities to pretty insane levels, however, they can't maintain it over extended periods. Excellent for PvP it seems though.
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    It's not so much the 3-4k fulminates that bother me, it's the 1-2k fireballs that stun you.

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    Fulminate is a 51 point ability; conversely Titan Strike does up to and some times over 2k AoE damage, stuns the primary target and is a 31 point ability rather than 51. Most of the primary DPS callings have some kind of large damage ability or finisher, it's just the way the game is. At the same time, you can reduce incoming damage, chance to be crit and so forth from PvP souls and if you're not stacking HP for PvP - which would also help against high damage burst abilities like these - then you're already gimping yourself.
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    A defiant Pyro on Deepstrike broke 9k on a fulminate the other day. I didn't see the hit, but both the mage and the confused guardian confirmed it. Remember, even with the 4 and 5ks, the Pyro may have the Wings buff. The burst can be a bit absurd, but usually when I take a full bar death it's from a winged Pyro.
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    i have been hit by a 2.X K cinder then a 1.5 fireball and a 4k fulminate in a row. Was my worst mage burst i have ever had to deal with(he was just selfbuffed no wings). I do not remember the time but probably was around 3 seconds from first hit to fulm killing me.


    So id assume its pretty normal to get 6-8k in a couple seconds vs a pyro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amys View Post
    That definitely beats the 4533 that hit me, but to the people that think its the wings buff, it has been replicated in duels outside warfronts as well. In addition, it is pretty evident to know when people have the buff as they have a huge pair of wings on them. If I was that blind in the first place I wouldnt be playing the game.

    I guess its normal for this mage soul then. I just wish I had a soul with a 51 point pwn all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelican View Post
    A defiant Pyro on Deepstrike broke 9k on a fulminate the other day. I didn't see the hit, but both the mage and the confused guardian confirmed it. Remember, even with the 4 and 5ks, the Pyro may have the Wings buff. The burst can be a bit absurd, but usually when I take a full bar death it's from a winged Pyro.
    That would explain the "OMG 9K!" exclamation I heard in Scion today.

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    Its normal and it's broken. This is why I laugh and feel great pleasure everytime I kill a mage. They are no diff in this game than in WoW. Cry like babies over every little thing, even while being astonishingly overpowered.

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    THIS ******* GMAE IS BROKE lvl50 FULL Epic PVP GEAR Buff WAR=10k That being BEST GEAR so image a Rogue or Cleric getting hit for that much in a row BS TRION IS A JOKE THIS GAME IS BROKE AND THAT IS WHY THEY LOST 100k people al lready TRue srtoy

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    wasnt it like just a week ago everyone was complaining that mages couldnt do any damage?
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    9k from a pyro, 4k from a sab, there is no difference, a one hit is a one hit, and warriors really aren't that far off from one hitting things either.


    My highest damage spell hits for 800 crit on players, and that's because it raises my intelligence and is powerbuffed from squirrel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tuckleberry Fynn View Post
    wasnt it like just a week ago everyone was complaining that mages couldnt do any damage?
    Mages, definitely need a damage buff.

    just because you say mage doesn't mean pyro, some of you need to get it together.

    Why does my stun hit for 300 yet a wars hit for 2.7k.

    That's the kind of difference dom has comparing damage.

    I just get a little more cc but my damage is almost nothing compared to other classes that also stun+damage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dominmatric View Post
    9k from a pyro, 4k from a sab, there is no difference, a one hit is a one hit, and warriors really aren't that far off from one hitting things either.


    My highest damage spell hits for 800 crit on players, and that's because it raises my intelligence and is powerbuffed from squirrel.



    Mages, definitely need a damage buff.

    just because you say mage doesn't mean pyro, some of you need to get it together.

    Why does my stun hit for 300 yet a wars hit for 2.7k.

    That's the kind of difference dom has comparing damage.

    I just get a little more cc but my damage is almost nothing compared to other classes that also stun+damage.
    Oh Im not arguing that, I agree in fact mages definately need more damage output. I get very frustrated personaly when i see people continously complaining that one class or another is doing to much damage. if the developers of these games actually listened to thse people we'd all be running around in a paper sack, hitting things with small sticks doing 1pt of damage all day so no one would feel like someone else was better then them.
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