A discussion for devs/mods and players: Worried about Rift

[Gardy]

Well one or two things I like about this forum is the freedom to debate other games, that never happened in WoW officially for many years.

I like to be fair minded and objective though

For example in WoW I liked AV PvP as it was a sort of a half way house between PvP and PvE being 40/50 people each side as I remember, had great fun doing that, ditto Kara and some ICC boss fights

In Everquest I liked the concept of mentoring as it had the potential to open up the world to higher levels, plus the various big cities

In Vanguard crafting was great

Etc Etc

I think Rift has taken good concepts from elsewhere and has/will use them, as all other games do/have - the difference here is on this forum we can talk about them

[Crazio]

Its simple.
If you like to do high dps + tanking with a single class, play RIFT.
If you like to be invinsible even during match play RIFT.
If you like to PvE play RIFT.
If you like Imbalance WFs ques even with 5 men Premade as Pugs will join in, play RIFT.
If you like lowly geared players in your team play RIFT.
If you like Big Expansion with Huge Worlds with all of the above, Play RIFT.

lol! Simple isnt it? I bet loads will still be around after knowing this fact. You know i know we all know already

[Shintu]

Why are you doing this? This is Trion's forums, not some other MMO's. There is no rule whatsoever against discussing other games, referring to them by name, comparing and contrasting Rift with other games, and so on. You don't need to do fancy stuff to avoid saying the names of other games or sneak past some filters or something. Trion's cool with it. Pretty sure Trion staff play other MMOs sometimes too.

I think hes trying to use "Leet speak"

[SanguineDeath]

I think hes trying to use "Leet speak"

oh.... sigh...

[SanguineDeath]

I guess, speaking about new games, everyone is playing d3 cuz my shard is dead, dead, dead... I was on, I think gnarlwood last night or keenblade, and was walking around the different zones - walked from Divine landing to Iron Pine Peaks just in time for an invasion and I saw maybe 2 other ppl there fighting the invasion. I was playing d3 for a while but had to stop cuz it keeps crashing my computer everytime I use the town teleporter - have no clue as to why... I think I'm slowly hating Actiblizz more and more everyday... Put in a ticket and see what those geniuses have to say. Logged in to panda land for 2 sec and then just said, "meh..." I really don't even miss that game and that's kinda really sad i really enjoyed that game and invested a lot of time and have friends there. But I do have an annual sub, like here, so I may pop in from time to time. The player base there has changed as well - ppl are just not what they used to be... but I guess things change with time and not always for the best... But we all know that...

[Crazio]

The number one person in my battlegroup in 90% of my pvp matches is a mage, so thats a load of crap.

Riiiight lol! Which 1 day of the week was that?
Bah dont have to tell me. Doesnt matter, you know i know we all know already.
Anyone could say Red, Green, Purple or Yellow Tops Dps/KB anyway. But the truth is we all know what are the colors that Tops Dps/KB always. Of course you will say Purple lol! Riiiight

[aux]

Riiiight lol! Which 1 day of the week was that?
Bah dont have to tell me. Doesnt matter, you know i know we all know already.
Anyone could say Red, Green, Purple or Yellow Tops Dps/KB anyway. But the truth is we all know what are the colors that Tops Dps/KB always. Of course you will say Purple lol! Riiiight

I'm top 3 KBs in most warfronts I play (assuming my side has a fighting chance), and I'm purple. But I beat other purples too you know, which proves that it's not the class, but that I'm just awesome.

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Well OK I'll be honest. Pyromancer is the #1 kill stealer soul in the game. If you're not near the top when using one, you suck

[Crazio]

And this is another example players will keep leaving this game cause enuff grind is enuff.
New Sigil

As we cant reslot planar essences therefore with a New Sigil we have to re-farm the lessers needed for the new one. And this keep happenning. Previously was the PvP Sigil, then the Water Sigil. And now its another new PvP Sigil.

Bah i had enuff of this. You guys go ahead and grind for it. And for all we know once Expension is out there will be a New Sigil and here we go again. Grinding for the same essences over and over again.

Fyi im on 3/4 to Full PA. Full p40 Geared & Reps. And no way im gonna re-grind my lessers for a new Sigil again.

Just as i've said in my other thread. No Games could kill RIFT. But RIFT will kill RIFT!

[Crazio]

Well OK I'll be honest. Pyromancer is the #1 kill stealer soul in the game. If you're not near the top when using one, you suck

Ofc they'll suck if there is no healer babysitting them.
Hint: Keep dying and spent almost 50% the entire match at res point wont Top KB or Dps Charts no matter what spec they are running.

[Kantazo]

We need some kind of stone ore something to allow us to remove the stones from the sigil so we can reuse them in new sigils.

[AtomicUniverse]

I think the OP has legitimate cause for concern as I will be leaving Rift for a while to sub to The Secret World.

I'm sure I will probably come back to Rift in the future though.

[Phantom D]

I think the OP has legitimate cause for concern as I will be leaving Rift for a while to sub to The Secret World.

I'm sure I will probably come back to Rift in the future though.

You are not going to miss the Summer World event, are you?

[SanguineDeath]

D3 was supposed to be a killer, people went tired of that fast. WoW has declined in popularity, drastically, and people have been looking elsewhere. They seem to be coming back to Rift a lot of them, and they seem happy about it as well.

I think we WILL notice a decline when GW2 comes out but... somehow I think it won't keep people's interest for all that long? The nature of the good old MMOer is that they get emotionally invested in the game. They put in a lot of time and thought and planning (and money) into one single game. It's dedication. Some might go and try GW2 out, but if something proves too alien they'll be back. Just look at WoW and how people have tried to untangle themselves from that dying mess for ages, but just can't do it. My boyfriend lasted three weeks, I am going on my fourth xD

It looks like Trion is doing their damn hardest to show the world the love they continiously pour on us, and they're getting noticed too. They're setting standards. Even WoW have been mimicking some of their things (transmogrification, AOE looting etc (yes, things like that exist in other games, but it just hit me how the second Rift got it WoW was all "WELL WE HAVE IT TOO")).

How to keep people away from GW2? Don't think its possible. People love the prospect of new games and GW2 has been hyped up into the sky. Will it fall in popularity? I think so, but only because it is bound to. Not EVERYONE and their grandma will like it. However, will they return to Rift? If Trion continues they way they do, I think they just might.

About the shards: You must remember Trion had to put up EXTRA shards upon release. They never planned for so many players to come at launch and was taken completely unprepared. Many of the testshards were such shards and it comes as no surprise that after the hype dies down, it become a lot more quiet. To me it feels like subscriptions have been stable. Those who are left are loyal and enjoy the game thoroughly. Wouldn't hurt with more people though, as that is what MMOs is all about. My greatest fear is for Rift to go FtP. I hope that never happens.

Your points are valid. I believe one only leaves a game under a certain set of parameters. I've played WoW since TBC or was it LK.... LOL it's been a while... anywho, I'm beta testing panda land. Sad thing is, I haven't been on that game for close to 2 weeks now. After D3 kept crashing my computer, I thought, well, I guess I can go on and play pandas for a while... Logged on and asked myself, "why am I here??? Not in the mood and the game has gotten really boring." D3, for as nice as it is (this is my first Diablo game so of course I have no prejudices for or against from previous Diablo experience) I think lacks something and this crap that I have to be continuously connected to a server to play a single player game is crap. I have an annual sub to WoW and Rift. I may try GW2 when it comes out, if I like it, I'll prob buy an annual sub to that too. And of course I have my RPG's that I'm playing on the side; Dragon Age and Kingdoms of Amalur. And every now and then I pop into EQ2... So the moral of the story kids is, if ppl are going to like playing a game, they're going to stick with it. Nothing can destroy a good game except the ones who created it.

[Kantazo]

GW2 has not sub, just buy the game and play. There is going to be a cash shop for few items not a game breaker or nothing like that. I share your feeling, I still have an account with WoW now inactive and was thinking to give it another try then I got an e-mail from WoW inviting me to Beta the panda and I went what????? No thanks

[Nicething]

i just see bablbla GW 2 is the rift killer.

Rift is like jesus, first killed by SWORT what a a amzing game damn !! the next instant kill was D3 wooooohhahh 1 Shoot.
oh and there was sth like what TEAR ? hahah EPIC FAIL !
Killer no. 3 GW2 not really ...


rift died so many times already its ridiculous.

and with each new MMO haters gonna hate again ..