Why is PVE fun?

[Muttles]

Since you assume no one can read let me give you a literal reply to your post:

*Note: this is for PVE in general, not RIFT-specific

I dont get how people can have fun in PVE. You sit in a dungeon with some elitist jerks on Vent. and look up how to do the fight and/or have an addon tell you when to do what. ****** -=>Most people enjoy figuring out how to accomplish goals. I can only assume your parents gave your everything you ever wanted right after you asked for it. The rest of us enjoy a challenge at trying to figure something out and then executing a plan. Also taking the time to learn the rules of a game do not make you an "elite jerk"

1.) Tank attacks first
2.) every1 hits boss
3.) *** cheeks turn red
4.) move to the corner until they stop glowing ****** -=> you should know how to slow down DPS before your cheeks turn red by not being ******ed. Again not an issue in Rift.
5.) hit boss again

****** -=>This is a standard example of a tank and spank fight in most games. Most people do not consider this fun. because of this games now have mechanics other then just watching agro.

****** -=>Lets compare your idea of a PvE encounter to Rift's first PvE Raid encounter.

1) Tank gets agro, making sure not to face the mob twords the raid or everyone dies. Ie make sure no one gets agro and be aware of his position.
2) A kite phase occurs where you must run away from the boss while being coordinated with 19 other players to ensure he is slowed by other mobs that spawn.
3 ) continue to hit boss while adds spawn, ensuring enough damage is done to both the adds and the boss.
4 ) New adds spawn, they Aoe you now need to inturupt them, while killing the boss, while not getting hit by his AOE.

There is a lot more then just watching your agro and getting gear.

repeat for countless hours and hope you get loot... wow.. fun. ****** -=> Are you sad that no one gives you loot cause your bad?


Is it fun because its programmed to let you win if you have good enough gear? And feeling like a winning is awesome? ****** -=> Getting gear is fun, there is gear in PvP. Even FPS games like CoD have gear now. So it is safe to assume Most people enjoy improving their gear

Inb4 "its skill to learn the fights" no, its not since an addon tells you what to do and it all consists of moving and whacking an over-sized mob with some voice files for hours.****** -=> Again you mention addons which out of 10-15 MMOs with raiding only 1 has (wow). Again Rift does not have addons.

Did I fail at reading too?

[Ratham]

Since you assume no one can read let me give you a literal reply to your post:

*Note: this is for PVE in general, not RIFT-specific

I dont get how people can have fun in PVE. You sit in a dungeon with some elitist jerks on Vent. and look up how to do the fight and/or have an addon tell you when to do what. ****** -=>Most people enjoy figuring out how to accomplish goals. I can only assume your parents gave your everything you ever wanted right after you asked for it. The rest of us enjoy a challenge at trying to figure something out and then executing a plan. Also taking the time to learn the rules of a game do not make you an "elite jerk"

1.) Tank attacks first
2.) every1 hits boss
3.) *** cheeks turn red
4.) move to the corner until they stop glowing ****** -=> you should know how to slow down DPS before your cheeks turn red by not being ******ed. Again not an issue in Rift.
5.) hit boss again

****** -=>This is a standard example of a tank and spank fight in most games. Most people do not consider this fun. because of this games now have mechanics other then just watching agro.

****** -=>Lets compare your idea of a PvE encounter to Rift's first PvE Raid encounter.

1) Tank gets agro, making sure not to face the mob twords the raid or everyone dies. Ie make sure no one gets agro and be aware of his position.
2) A kite phase occurs where you must run away from the boss while being coordinated with 19 other players to ensure he is slowed by other mobs that spawn.
3 ) continue to hit boss while adds spawn, ensuring enough damage is done to both the adds and the boss.
4 ) New adds spawn, they Aoe you now need to inturupt them, while killing the boss, while not getting hit by his AOE.

There is a lot more then just watching your agro and getting gear.

repeat for countless hours and hope you get loot... wow.. fun. ****** -=> Are you sad that no one gives you loot cause your bad?


Is it fun because its programmed to let you win if you have good enough gear? And feeling like a winning is awesome? ****** -=> Getting gear is fun, there is gear in PvP. Even FPS games like CoD have gear now. So it is safe to assume Most people enjoy improving their gear

Inb4 "its skill to learn the fights" no, its not since an addon tells you what to do and it all consists of moving and whacking an over-sized mob with some voice files for hours.****** -=> Again you mention addons which out of 10-15 MMOs with raiding only 1 has (wow). Again Rift does not have addons.

Did I fail at reading too?

No, but you succeeded in being an "elitist jerk" and a troll

Thanks for playing, too many WoW-***** in this game

/thread

[Bekkal]

No, but you succeeded in being an "elitist jerk" and a troll

Thanks for playing, too many WoW-***** in this game

/thread

Apparently it was /thread when I posted (either time), because you've responded to neither post.

Troll fail?

[Greyhald]

*Note: this is for PVE in general, not RIFT-specific

I dont get how people can have fun in PVE. You sit in a dungeon with some elitist jerks on Vent. and look up how to do the fight and/or have an addon tell you when to do what.

1.) Tank attacks first
2.) every1 hits boss
3.) *** cheeks turn red
4.) move to the corner until they stop glowing
5.) hit boss again

repeat for countless hours and hope you get loot... wow.. fun.


Is it fun because its programmed to let you win if you have good enough gear? And feeling like a winning is awesome?

Inb4 "its skill to learn the fights" no, its not since an addon tells you what to do and it all consists of moving and whacking an over-sized mob with some voice files for hours.

lol. Pick the person trying to make PvP more important so they can feel like they are "ubah".

You're funny .

[AngelOfTheGuardians]

*Note: this is for PVE in general, not RIFT-specific

I dont get how people can have fun in PVE. You sit in a dungeon with some elitist jerks on Vent. and look up how to do the fight and/or have an addon tell you when to do what.

1.) Tank attacks first
2.) every1 hits boss
3.) *** cheeks turn red
4.) move to the corner until they stop glowing
5.) hit boss again

repeat for countless hours and hope you get loot... wow.. fun.


Is it fun because its programmed to let you win if you have good enough gear? And feeling like a winning is awesome?

Inb4 "its skill to learn the fights" no, its not since an addon tells you what to do and it all consists of moving and whacking an over-sized mob with some voice files for hours.

Why is PvP fun? All you do is attack the same classes every single WF or encounter in open-world PvP. You find a strategy to beat X class with Y build and you repeat that strategy for every encounter with that set-up.

[Celtium]

Why is being alive fun? We wake up, eat, go to work/school, play rift, relax, eat, sleep.

Rinse and repeat.

We should just unsub from life. Boring mechanics. Too easy.

Troll post against troll.

[Kalfear]

*Note: this is for PVE in general, not RIFT-specific

I dont get how people can have fun in PVE. You sit in a dungeon with some elitist jerks on Vent. and look up how to do the fight and/or have an addon tell you when to do what.

1.) Tank attacks first
2.) every1 hits boss
3.) *** cheeks turn red
4.) move to the corner until they stop glowing
5.) hit boss again

repeat for countless hours and hope you get loot... wow.. fun.


Is it fun because its programmed to let you win if you have good enough gear? And feeling like a winning is awesome?

Inb4 "its skill to learn the fights" no, its not since an addon tells you what to do and it all consists of moving and whacking an over-sized mob with some voice files for hours.

Because PVE mobs are smarter then your average PVP player!

Next question please

PS: PVE mobs also dont type/speak useing numbers instead of letters which brings us back to the PVE mobs being smarter then PVPers

[Izithel]

For the same reason as others enjoy PVP.

To set out and beat a challenge created by someone else.
Of course, a PVE encounter is always the same when you do it again and again, but there is loads of variation and learning an encounter is fun.
PVP is more Dynamic but the challenge always falls back in the same range while PVE varies widely between bosses.

[Yourname]

*Note: this is for PVE in general, not RIFT-specific

I dont get how people can have fun in PVE. You sit in a dungeon with some elitist jerks on Vent. and look up how to do the fight and/or have an addon tell you when to do what.

1.) Tank attacks first
2.) every1 hits boss
3.) *** cheeks turn red
4.) move to the corner until they stop glowing
5.) hit boss again

repeat for countless hours and hope you get loot... wow.. fun.


Is it fun because its programmed to let you win if you have good enough gear? And feeling like a winning is awesome?

Inb4 "its skill to learn the fights" no, its not since an addon tells you what to do and it all consists of moving and whacking an over-sized mob with some voice files for hours.

You can say the exact same thing in PvP: "You kill the opposite faction for countless hours etc"


Not everyone plays mmo's to just pvp, I play them to progress and get better gear, but sometimes I pvp.

[Uiluri]

I dont get how people can have fun in PVE. You sit in a dungeon with some elitist jerks on Vent.

I don't use and have never used Vent.

and look up how to do the fight and/or have an addon tell you when to do what.

I don't and have never used addons. I only look up how to do the fight if I've been at it for hours and can't figure it out.

1.) Tank attacks first
2.) every1 hits boss
3.) *** cheeks turn red
4.) move to the corner until they stop glowing
5.) hit boss again

Numbers three and four actually don't make sense to me. I've never been in a fight like that before.

repeat for countless hours

See previous comment. "Countless hours" doesn't really work for me as an argument because PvP can go on for countless hours too.

and hope you get loot...

I almost always get some kind of loot.

wow.. fun.

Is it fun because its programmed to let you win if you have good enough gear? And feeling like a winning is awesome?

I don't think the correlation between good gear and winning is as strong as you seem to think it is. I've killed things way above my level while equipped with so-so gear. I've been smashed flat by things I should have been able to handle while equipped with some pretty good gear. PvE takes tactics too, just of a different sort.

Even though they're called MMOs, I try to limit the amount of contact I have with random other players (friends excluded) in-game. I get fed up with the crude language, trolling, and lack of manners that I often encounter. Therefore, I don't do a whole lot of PvP.