thanks for twinks trion

[Argrim]

I've just been telling everyone to skip 40-49 PvP. 10-39 doesn't have THAT many twinks... the worst is 40-49. But by then you are really close to IAs and Ember Isle, so just dungeon your way to 45, then IA to 50. Let the twinks rot alone in the WFs they ruined on purpose. Let's see how much they enjoy their WFs when it's nothing but twinks and long queue times.

Yeah, 40-49 is pretty bad. It is populated by the masses of players whom cannot compete at the highest level. However, my largest concern is actually the 10-19 bracket as first impressions mean a heck of allot for new players within this genre (in actuality, everything). I noticed a few "static" twinked groups in the 40s bracket, but there is a certain guild that populates the 10-19 bracket... I forget the exact name of the guild, but it had something to do with "bees" (yes the insect... Maturity at its best). Regardless, other than "cheap" thrills, I do not understand the desire to "twink".

[Argrim]

Is it really a bad thing that people want to be competitive in PvP all through their progress?

If you don't wrack up much favor on your way to 50 you are going to get absolutely decimated non stop until you can't even bear to enter a warfront anymore. Atleast if you farm WFs at lvl 49, you can enjoy it AND earn yourself enough favor / gear to make the step up to lvl 50 WFs and not just be a free kill.

If one is that serious about PvP, you'll have more than enough from doing warfronts throughout the tiers as you move up. On my warrior, I had enough to buy the complete tactician set prior to 45. From level 45 to 50, I had almost entirely leveled through instant adventure (which is insane experience). With the gear I had earned, I do not dominate, but have enough to be competitive. The truth is, twinking is the exact opposite of wanting to be "competitive". People seek domination, and humorously enough, add insult to injury to new players by "rubbing it in their face" after decimating them.

[Argrim]

I think you're putting the blame on the wrong thing. There's a couple of things that can make twinks so much stronger and hard to kill, xp lock is none of them. I've seen both issues reported, so hopefully they're working on a fix. Then maybe things feel a bit better for you that suffer so much in WFs.

Experience locking is how "twinks" are possible. If what you're referring to is an exploit or something of that nature, then that would not be considered twinking. It would be cheating, or exploiting. I know there is something with higher level bards buffs, that people have exploited for lower level twinks. However, take that away, you're still left with characters fully decked out at 19 shamefully preying upon new players whom do not have a clue.

[Argrim]

I'm level 28 right now and haven't had much problem with twinks. I'm a little worried about what it will be like in the 40-49 bracket, but I've seen maybe 4 or 5 my entire time.

It will be fine, so long as you expect to lose. Unless you get lucky enough to get put on a team of twinks... Then you just sit back and soak in the favor.

[XaviourEQ2]

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[Aasterinian]

just took a mage through the 40-49 bracket myself, more or less it was utterly horrible until about 46, from 47-49 it was more in line with what i was experiencing on my warrior or rogue but it showed who really used the exp lock and crafting to make themselves unkillable...at any rate good riddance to that bracket...and yea if ur exp locked to 49...rot in hell if you want "competative pvp" in that bracket you should have locked yourselves at 46...

[Ivengar]

I have no idea why they ever put in lvl lock. Single most bad change they made in this game and I am so glad I have no plans to lvl an other toon up as WFs are now pointless. 50+ is where its at now.

[Ailene]

Experience locking is how "twinks" are possible. If what you're referring to is an exploit or something of that nature, then that would not be considered twinking. It would be cheating, or exploiting. I know there is something with higher level bards buffs, that people have exploited for lower level twinks. However, take that away, you're still left with characters fully decked out at 19 shamefully preying upon new players whom do not have a clue.

You can twink a leveling character as well, without locking it's xp and it will still hurt for others. And there's a few more things then bardbuffs. Bardbuffs you loose at least if you get killed. But, if people twinking are mainly using this bug to become even stonger, then it's not the xp lock that hurts but the bug/exploit. If they fix it, maybe twinks won't hurt that much anymore and people would stop complaining a bit, maybe... at least till they find something else to blame their losses on

[Argrim]

You can multi quote in the same reply.That is all.

Oh, now? You want to get arrogant? You've been put in your place, now stay there unless you've got something to counter and contribute to the thread further. Despite you're mockery of my posts, you know I make valid points. Unless you're a stubborn individual or simply do not want to consider that which will counter your own stance concerning this topic.

Note: If you need help with this game or EQ2, just let me know buddy. I can teach you how to play!

[Argrim]

You can twink a leveling character as well, without locking it's xp and it will still hurt for others. And there's a few more things then bardbuffs. Bardbuffs you loose at least if you get killed. But, if people twinking are mainly using this bug to become even stonger, then it's not the xp lock that hurts but the bug/exploit. If they fix it, maybe twinks won't hurt that much anymore and people would stop complaining a bit, maybe... at least till they find something else to blame their losses on

I am going to have to respectfully disagree with you. You can "well" equip yourself, but one would never be able to achieve the full "twink" level that is existent now in most brackets. The simple fact is, an individual trying to achieve 'best-in-slot' would be unable to reach without out-leveling the bracket (this is mostly true with the lower brackets and less an issue for higher twinks). However, if they did get fully "twinked" out, their reign over the 'average joe' in warfronts would last only so long if they could not "lock" into place and camp a bracket. Thus, the core issue is indeed level locking, as certain individuals 'camp' opposing players and viciously so (in fact, I have a plethora of video from the early brackets illustrating such behavior that I think I ought to get posted).

[rptb1]

If you don't wrack up much favor on your way to 50 you are going to get absolutely decimated non stop until you can't even bear to enter a warfront anymore. Atleast if you farm WFs at lvl 49, you can enjoy it AND earn yourself enough favor / gear to make the step up to lvl 50 WFs and not just be a free kill.

Having just made it through that hellish 50-in-greens stage, I can't be mad at 49ers farming favour. There's no way I'd go through that again, given the option.

This is a huge flaw in Trion's design.