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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurro View Post
    Let's be real here, RVR will never work. Never did, never will.

    Yeah i'm totally against it. it's just a lag fest and people quit after the 1st month. Then you have other threads about how we should have more character creation sliders and options. Then the server lags out and the game dies. It will especially not work with Rift because of rifts and huge amount of mobs/players that can happen. I like PVP but i hate RVR because it doesn't work.

    Oh and faction balance, it's garbage. RVR is trash.
    Never did, never will? I have 4 words for you: Dark Age of Camelot.
    Look at your post, now back to mine, now back to your post, now back to mine. Sadly, it isn't mine, but if you stopped being nonconstructive and dumb and started posting about something that makes sense, it could look like it's mine. Look down, back up, where are you? You're on a page with the post your post could look like. Anything is possible when you post like me, and not like an idiot. I'm on a forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Wand View Post
    Leave PvE servers as is. PvP in instances and duels please. Isn't PvP server already free for all? Sorry I have no idea.
    Please stop. You have no idea what we are talking about here. I plan to play on a PVE server cause I like consensual PVP. I desperately want RVR. I don't think you understand what RVR is. Read up on DAOC and what the word means and you will understand how its different from a PVP server where griefing and what not at tolerated and encouraged.

    Instances completely defeat the purpose of RVR. It needs to be a seperate area designated for pvp. I don't care how they handle the flagging issue. If some of the obsessive carebears really have an issue then yes treat it like a normal zone, maybe have it prompt you when you enter the zone if you wish to flag pvp on or off.

    Either way this needs to be added to the game. Can it be done with 2 factions? Yes. Its never been done right but I think it can be done with two. Population will become and issue and a third faction will be needed down the road probably. But its no different than anything else in that regard. There is no real lose to adding a rvr zone aside from time spent and resources.

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    of course we want it...
    Quote Originally Posted by Gilligan View Post
    Promising preview! The less Rift conforms with the preferences of someone who still plays VG, the better for the vast majority of potential customers out there.
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    I hugely enjoyed open RVR in WAR, so I wouldn't mind if something like this is included in Rift, even on PVE servers.

    People who don't want to get involved can just avoid those areas and you won't be flagged as PVP at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurro View Post
    Let's be real here, RVR will never work. Never did, never will.

    Yeah i'm totally against it. it's just a lag fest and people quit after the 1st month. Then you have other threads about how we should have more character creation sliders and options. Then the server lags out and the game dies. It will especially not work with Rift because of rifts and huge amount of mobs/players that can happen. I like PVP but i hate RVR because it doesn't work.

    Oh and faction balance, it's garbage. RVR is trash.
    Let's be real here, you have no clue. RvR works like everything else, fine if implemented right. Saying it doesn't work is like saying MMOs doesn't work because people eventualy leave them for other games. Why not just skip the beginning and the middle part, get right to the end and just close up shop now?

    What faction balance is garbage? Are you saying the two factions we have now would be underpowered in some way should RvR be implemented?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cYan View Post
    of course we want it...
    No we dont

    no intrest in it what so ever

    none

    so dont speak for me

    I vote no
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    Ok listened to the interview, the guy giving the answers says maybe to every question so I wouldn't hold my breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PVStar View Post
    Never did, never will? I have 4 words for you: Dark Age of Camelot.
    Yeah that's one game that worked right, mainly because back then the MMO's were not as popular and there wasn't as much players as today. And the games back then were much easier for hardware to handle. Less character customization, skins, items, vegetations, etc...

    But the fact remains that it won't work in RIFT. It didn't work in Aion for sure, which would be similar to what you want here. It didn't work in Warhammer because, well... it didn't work. It didn't work in AoC... Because most people didn't get past the first city before throwing it in the trash.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurro View Post
    Let's be real here, RVR will never work. Never did, never will.

    Yeah i'm totally against it. it's just a lag fest and people quit after the 1st month. Then you have other threads about how we should have more character creation sliders and options. Then the server lags out and the game dies. It will especially not work with Rift because of rifts and huge amount of mobs/players that can happen. I like PVP but i hate RVR because it doesn't work.

    Oh and faction balance, it's garbage. RVR is trash.
    It can work, it did work and it will work again when someone has the balls to commit to it and not do it half *** like WAR did. It didn't work in Aion and in Warhammer cause they didn't do it right and didn't commit to it. Thats all. End of story. Not sure why you think RIFT in particular wouldnt' work with RVR.

    Does it need 3 factions to work optimally? Yes. But the only reason for that is because of population. That will be the case whatever pvp you have so its an issue that should be addressed anyways. Why more games don't have three factions I will never understand.

    As for Lag, its not different than invasions are now, so your argument is ridiculous.

    It sounds like you just want to be cool and have a different opinion. None of your arguments make any sense at all.
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    Would love some real RvR in a game. DAoC back in the day was the best by far. Anybody who doesn't think it works has no clue what they are talking about because they've obviously never played it.

    Honestly without real RvR of any sort i'm not sure how long i'll last after endgame. PvP is great but having real objectives is key to realm vs realm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khelendross View Post
    Please stop. You have no idea what we are talking about here. I plan to play on a PVE server cause I like consensual PVP. I desperately want RVR. I don't think you understand what RVR is. Read up on DAOC and what the word means and you will understand how its different from a PVP server where griefing and what not at tolerated and encouraged.

    Instances completely defeat the purpose of RVR. It needs to be a seperate area designated for pvp. I don't care how they handle the flagging issue. If some of the obsessive carebears really have an issue then yes treat it like a normal zone, maybe have it prompt you when you enter the zone if you wish to flag pvp on or off.

    Either way this needs to be added to the game. Can it be done with 2 factions? Yes. Its never been done right but I think it can be done with two. Population will become and issue and a third faction will be needed down the road probably. But its no different than anything else in that regard. There is no real lose to adding a rvr zone aside from time spent and resources.
    I know exactly what RvR is as I played DAOC when it went live. And you know what... I stopped caring about this. I don't care either way about this, it's a dumb idea and will never happen.

    But here are my parting words...I find it ironic that people want to PvP/RvR but want to do it in the safety of a PvE server to avoid the griefing from the mean players from the PvP servers then in turn call us carebears. Makes total sense, not...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Egnarts View Post
    Let's be real here, you have no clue. RvR works like everything else, fine if implemented right. Saying it doesn't work is like saying MMOs doesn't work because people eventualy leave them for other games. Why not just skip the beginning and the middle part, get right to the end and just close up shop now?

    What faction balance is garbage? Are you saying the two factions we have now would be underpowered in some way should RvR be implemented?
    Your the one that have no clue. You whine alot for a guy that knows everything, don't you? Why don't you make another whine thread... 3 days before the game is released.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azurro View Post
    Your the one that have no clue. You whine alot for a guy that knows everything, don't you? Why don't you make another whine thread... 3 days before the game is released.
    I have yet to start any threads on this forum, all I do is reply in threads because I'm bored waiting for the game to be up again.

    I'm sorry that it seems impossible to have a mature discussion on these boards without people going 3rd grader on you Two threads where people lash out at me for no reason at all now..

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    I would love to see this in game too !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Magic Wand View Post
    I know exactly what RvR is as I played DAOC when it went live. And you know what... I stopped caring about this. I don't care either way about this, it's a dumb idea and will never happen.

    But here are my parting words...I find it ironic that people want to PvP/RvR but want to do it in the safety of a PvE server to avoid the griefing from the mean players from the PvP servers then in turn call us carebears. Makes total sense, not...
    What can possibly hard to understand about the fact that people want a fair fight. Don't be obtuse. There is nothing to be proud about for killing a guy 10 levels lower than you over and over cause you think its funny. Thats why I am an not rolling a pvp server. I don't agree with it but I support other players right to practice such behavior...away from me. As someone who I am sure based on your comments, whined about pve flagging and what not, you should be more understanding of people who want to play the game their way. If you don't like the idea of rvr then fine, don't do it. Continue to find artifacts or whatever.

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