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Thread: Raids will no longer have 10-man versions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    No this ******* is forcing me to join a guild. Just because they are too lazy to make it work for 10 man raids we have to pay for it. **** that dude I am not changing my schedule at work because Trion is too ****ing lazy to make this work.

    This company just failed and catered to the top 1% of their player base.
    Rewriting the raid encounters would involve changing huge amount of code and completely starting over on balancing them. Joining a guild requires sending someone a /tell saying "hey, can I join your guild". And you're calling trion lazy?

    You might want to recheck your numbers too. I think most would agree that folks like you are the bottom of the barrel, not the top 1%...

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    "You are forced to join guild"......


    ITS A MMORPG FFS!

    Go play Call Of Duty if you want ultra casual. Gezzzz.... what is wrong with you ppl?

    If you hate guilds, hate grouping, hate invite other ppls to your party, hate everything social and cammunity based.... WHY YOU PLAY MMO?

    This all casual **** used extensively and without any taste make World Of Warcraft **** that it is today. PLZ dont ruin another MMO with your whining about semi-singleplayer game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sylexus View Post
    guess what, you are an elitist prick easily judging by your posts. Frostedblaze made a great point. No one is forcing you to play or join a guild. So it's a good thing people like you are cancelling their pre-orders.
    someone give this man a taco!!! cause there awesome!

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    Too bad, i'd have liked 10-mans, my computer is pretty crap and 20-man is going to test it to the limit.

    No cancel for me though, this game has tons more to do than just raids.
    Last edited by Ickorus; 02-07-2011 at 08:04 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vmaxgamer View Post
    10 man raids arent epic at all. heck ive seen bigger fights over green swords of the bear than that.
    10-person is not a raid, it's slightly more than a Dark Age of Camelot group (8-person). 20 is at least getting there... if your alliance can't field enough for most of a 20-man raid and pick up a few known-good people on the side, you're probably not in one that would actually finish the raids anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elleeri View Post
    "You are forced to join guild"......


    ITS A MMORPG FFS!

    Go play Call Of Duty if you want ultra casual. Gezzzz.... what is wrong with you ppl?

    If you hate guilds, hate grouping, hate invite other ppls to your party, hate everything social and cammunity based.... WHY YOU PLAY MMO?

    This all casual **** used extensively and without any taste make World Of Warcraft **** that it is today. PLZ dont ruin another MMO with your whining about semi-singleplayer game.
    Oh yeah it is casual because I can not devote my life to a guild because I have to work in real life. SORRY! My god I am sorry I offended such a hardcore no lifer like you.

    God forbid I ask the devs to atleast allow me to see the content. Do not dumb it down, but atleast make it possible for us to see it.

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    Once again, how does it affect the Pro 20 man raiders to have both versions? If you like 20 mans, then do the 20 man versions. No reason not to have 10 man versions.

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    To me it was the idea that the game was advertised as dynamic, and now that we have spent money on it they say they are no longer doing it..BAIT AND SWITCH!

    I think this is what is causing alot of the issues..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eisberg View Post
    Once again, how does it affect the Pro 20 man raiders to have both versions? If you like 20 mans, then do the 20 man versions. No reason not to have 10 man versions.
    It doesn't, so long as they can't get loot that is anywhere near as good by doing a simpler/easier/less-organizational-requirements/etc. version of the raid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DuoakaKanami View Post
    someone give this man a taco!!! cause there awesome!
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    I dont understand, you'd still need a schedule based around 10 people unless you solely wanted to pug.. But wouldnt pugging the "end-endgame" content mean its too easy "cough wotlk cough" :O!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eisberg View Post
    Once again, how does it affect the Pro 20 man raiders to have both versions? If you like 20 mans, then do the 20 man versions. No reason not to have 10 man versions.
    His reasoning is absolutely idiotic "oh it makes it easier on guilds"...REALLY you have a guild of 60 people and you run 3 groups exactly on time every single week and not a single person misses for any reason.

    No WTF happens is "hey guy we are missing 5 people because of real life"..ok we can do the 10m man and pug atleast one spot.

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    I knew there would be posts claiming I was clamoring for attention. Obviously, there could be no other reason. It could not be that I saw no posts about this and wanted the information to get out there (from the posts it is obvious not everyone was aware)? It could not be that I was trying to let Trion know that I was leaving due to it (from what I have seen they are good at considering everyone’s opinion). No, clearly I must want the spotlight.

    Yes, I am aware there is 10-man content, but I just want access to all the content so I can see the full story. I do not even care if the 10-man gear is half the stats of the 20. I think that would be ridiculous but as long as I can go through all the content with my guild at my side I would be willing to deal with it.

    If this does not affect you or you are glad to see the 10-mans go, more power to you. For the most part, I liked Rift, but this was a deal breaker for me and obviously for others. To all who stay, it looks like the ride will be a blast for you so enjoy it.

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    First he said "initially, at launch". While I liked the idea of every raid zone having a 10 and a 20 man option I did have 2 questions both of which he raised. First u end up with gear head aches, second if ur plan is x number of raid zones u basically double the work to do both. My guess is going to be that they will follow the path of EQ2 and end up introducing 'A' 10 man raid zone or 10 man version of 'A' raid zone every so often.

    It also helps to limit something. If everyone, 10 and 20 man raid, can kill raid mob Bob, u eventually get a dynamic WoW knows too well "he has that epic, why I can't I have it." The more lines get blurred the more arguments like this get created.

    Now don't get me wrong. I am a little disappointed and this probabaly puts a little wrinkle in the plans of my guild come launch day. That said for purely logical reasons divorced of my desire to just jump head first into raiding, it does make sense. I would rather have quality t2 instances and 20 man raids than a doubling of raid instances with less quality. /shrug.

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    Some of you guys are crazy uptight about this game. If someone says something negative about the game or they are upset about a feature or whatever don't take it so personally. I've never seen such furious fan boys, if anyone says anything negative about the game you all start attacking. I hope this isn't an indication of the Rift community during launch.

    That sucks, maybe they were having problems adjusting the content for 10 mans or something. I'm sure after launch if it is something that the community really wants they will eventually put it in but I do prefer smaller raids to the huge raids.

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