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    I didn't know you could beat an MMO...?
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    I will beat this game like it owes me money.
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    I went from level 1 to 30 this beta on my mage. This was mostly because I was purposely not reading the quests and rushing around. I will be leveling a bit slower once the game comes out and will be reading quests, taking my time, and enjoying the game. Other things that can keep you occupied while leveling are the warfronts, rifts, invasions, and crafting.

    I don't think there will be a lack of things to do once I hit max level. =)

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    The OP is correct. Levelling is way too fast.

    I bought DCUO that was released this month and maxed my character in a week of not trying. That is bogus. Did a second character nearly to max without effort. So I am done with that game (even though it is a good game except for the UI). They shall not get my $15/month. I dont want Rift to be the same, but it shall likely be. Levelling speed is way to fast for my playstyle, though it is OK for others.

    There are a couple solutions. Champions Online has a difficulty meter, that lets you set your own game difficulty. For Rift I would like to see an XP Slider implemented. If you want to level fast you can leave it at 100%, but if you want the game to last you can slide it down to 10% of normal XP or even less. This seems like an ideal solution for most. I freaking want to crank down that XP and keep paying for this game for a long time, but I doubt Trion shall let me pay them more money by implementing this feature.
    The second solution is another Server ruleset, comprised of much harder mobs and much less XP rewards. This is more difficult to code and maintain, but might also work. Again, they likely wont implement that as well.

    Once I believe I have seen most the content I leave a game. There are significant amount of players who feel the same. Please accomodate us as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlimeFish View Post
    So? I fail to see the problem.

    I mean - if people want to breeze through - they do.
    If people want to take it slow and easy, they do.

    And no - this game won't die simply because of that.
    I agree. Most people just pick up quests and look on the map and do it. Have fun with the game by reading the quests and getting into the story. It will make the game alot longer and when your in an instance and some mob is yelling something that makes no sence to you cause you dont know the story you can only blame yourself.

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    Seriously... if people just click accept on quests without even reading them and then looking on the map to see where the objective is, of course your going to breeze through the game. Take your time, read the quests, explore the areas, look for collectiables(artifacts). The game will last alot longer. This generation of mmorpg players dont even seem to care about levels 1-49, its just a race to 50 then..."WHERES THE ENDGAME?!"

    EDIT: Also, if people would read the damn quests we wouldnt have people yelling "where is soandso for this quest?" 90% of the time the quest giver will tell you exactly hat to do and where to go.
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    I have no plans to take my time to level. I am not alone in this thought process. They had better have a good end game laid out. A poorly designed end game has killed a good many MMO's.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Necrolock View Post
    This generation of mmorpg players dont even seem to care about levels 1-49, its just a race to 50 then..."WHERES THE ENDGAME?!"
    Exactly.
    The other side of that problem is that questing is being spoon-fed to players. They have it all marked out on the map, and there's a TLDR version of the text at the bottom of every quest, so you don't even have to read it.

    I remember when quests used to just give you general directions, and it was up to you to explore and figure it out. Forgive me if I use a wow reference, but I remember spending three weeks in Darkshore leveling from 10-18, til I could go into Ashenvale, and it was awesome having to figure things out. It also bolstered the feeling of community since players would help one another find places when they got lost.

    Alas, that is no more.

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    I heard all xp was like 200% for beta so....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armithus View Post
    Dude, the live game people will not be leveling as fast. They made the beta play fast so people could see.
    Dumbass of the day.

    Experience on beta was NORMAL.
    Last edited by Folius; 01-30-2011 at 04:27 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Folius View Post
    Experience on beta was NORMAL.
    citation needed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adaqshiel View Post
    I didn't know you could beat an MMO...?
    When there's no more content updates ― you can beat MMO, but you still won't beat some other people in PvP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PotRoast View Post
    I heard all xp was like 200% for beta so....
    So that means we will run out of quests and have to grind... Aion tested and proven ― that's bad for dev's wallets, as europeans and americans DO NOT WANT to grind. hf
    Last edited by Deviltry; 01-30-2011 at 04:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Generin View Post
    The original poster actually brings something up that I really like and, at the same time, that I really worry about:

    Because of the multiple specs you can have (I think 4 per character), and the ability to respec, and the fact that each spec keeps the same level as the original spec (and equipment), I only have to level 4 characters to Max (Warrior, Rogue, Cleric, Mage). I can try out any combination of souls at max level (kinda defeats the test servers that wow has). I think this is great, because, in a lot of mmo's, they struggle with how to get a player (who has put in the time and played a character to max level) a way to speed up the process for any of their other characters. Some MMOs have tried giving you starting higher level characters. Some MMOs just don't care and make you level the new character all over again (a large time sink, and once you've done the quest lines a few times, it sure becomes a grind). I like the way that Rift is trying to solve this problem...

    However....

    And I am sure they are deeply aware of this, the endgame will come fast for Rift. Rift will be a lot about the endgame. The challenge, I feel, is to make an endgame that is fun for all types (solo, casual gamers, occasional raiders, hardcore gamers). Each "type" has it's own needs and time committments that they are available to play. Each should be able to get equivalent equipment (and this is key - "eventually"). A casual gamer or solo gamer should progress a lot slower than the hardcore gamers...

    I am anxious to see what Trion has in store for this...

    This is exactly what I've been thinking and voicing to some of my friends that are in Beta with me.

    I hope they planned ahead because this game is really quite fun from 1-30. Its the 45-50+ "end game" that I'm concerned with. I hope it is expansive enough that it keeps us busy for 6+ months and new content constantly coming online.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PotRoast View Post
    citation needed
    sigh.. why in gods green earth would they NEED to increase the experience gained when the there was a set max level that you could attain? It doesn't make any sense, clearly fan boys out there are trying to hard.

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