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    The results sound right--the game is roughly fine difficulty-wise. Most people are cool with it, and only a minority feel it's too hard or too easy.

    I'm also in the camp that's pleased with the encounters in RIFT. Solo play is fine, and I can even mentor down if I want more of a challenge in a fight. Grouping for dungeons and such has variable difficulty depending on everyone's gear, attention and awareness of area layout and mechanics, etc.
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    i think theyre on the right track
    i mean right now you can level as standard to 50 then hit sl, if you do the dual island story quests and nothing else at all you will get 2 full sets of gear and weps from story completions ( albeit naff but its free and suited to level ) and should be about 58.
    i know cause i just did it to an alt
    just right

    high end issues are our own fault tho, we blow throu them so fast
    Last edited by Pixel Monkey; 03-17-2013 at 05:40 AM.

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    Haven't gotten a survey.

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    Survey... you know I lost a bit of respect for your so called surveys I canceled my sub which has a massive 9 months to run just to prevent a resub next year. So I checked out your survey got to the question of 'what level did you reach before quitting?' the choice was 10, 20, 30, 40 or 50 and wait a minute no 60 option? ...facepalm

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    1) So far, this seems to be a flawed sample selection process; the % saying "easy" should be higher, with the "just right" correspondingly adjusted downward.

    2) Word-Clouding these responses is only done by someone interested in investing minimal time for short-cut answers/diagrams. There is a disconcerting of any genuine analysis of questionnaire responses, and this is entirely shameful for anyone involved with game design development.

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    In the meantime, I'll answer these two questions:

    A) Question: You said that RIFT was too easy. What would you like to see made harder?
    Questing in general (there is a problem when it is more convenient to hurry thru content *solo* when you are playing a MMORPG) ... as well as zone events in general (takes minimal effort as part of a zerg ... condensed to "tag something and AFK for full credit").

    B) Question: What would you like to see be made easier?
    Answer = People attempting to acquire Infinity Stones ('world gear' NPC), they have only a perpetually long *BORING GRIND* ahead of them, of which the significant majority of time is spent doing the same things day after day (ie certain dailies and the limited variety of zone events (Volan) for the umpteenth time).
    In the meantime, progress has been made with reputation-gains (which are *still slow* due to the inability to achieve reputation gains outside of dailies, onslaughts, and IAs which quickly gets repetitious).

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    Query/Rant (Reputation System): Why change the reputation system model to be a grind-fest with Storm Legion, when the reputation rewards are seriously not very good (almost entirely 'blues' outside of the beneficial enchants)?
    By the time *most players* achieve the required reputation to purchase a blue item from the NPC, they *already have better* as a drop from experts or IS-purchases, or crafting.
    For the amount of grinding involved for 'max rep', there should be more than 1 purchasable epic-quality item, and they should be of raid-tier quality.
    Last edited by Grandevr; 03-18-2013 at 02:21 PM. Reason: Typo

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    I got a survey, but no title yet.
    Guess they're waiting for the survey to close


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    Quote Originally Posted by Essala View Post
    Question, if the challenge is "Just right" why are you losing subscribers?
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    http://www.riftgame.com/en/shardstatus/index.php

    get out, the servers have been the same level since SL came out.
    IIRC, in the past, these shards were normally Medium/High ... not Low/Medium

    I find it entirely plausible that Rift has been losing subscribers with the significant "Overpromised & Undelivered" release of Storm Legion.

    At least Trion released Storm Legion in far better shape than SimCity...
    Last edited by Grandevr; 03-18-2013 at 02:27 PM. Reason: Showing Quotation Chain

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandevr View Post
    IIRC, in the past, these shards were normally Medium/High ... not Low/Medium
    As you and I are both in the same timezone, Grandevr, I implore you to check back at the shard status at 9:00PM EST and see what the shard population looks like. Right now, in the middle of the day when most players are at school or work, of course the populations are going to be Low/Medium.

    Faeblight is High most evenings and the fact that it's Medium at 4:45 in the afternoon is pretty awesome if you ask me!

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    As far as game difficulty is concerned, I would love to see quest difficulty raised as well as more quest hubs. The Hunt Rifts are now and always have been too easy to complete with even a small group - the difficulty should be increased. PvP is perfect just the way it is (Good job!) and the raids are on-par with what I would expect entry-level raiding to be.
    Last edited by Jhaeda; 03-18-2013 at 03:44 PM. Reason: Distinction between quote response and post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandevr View Post
    1) So far, this seems to be a flawed sample selection process; the % saying "easy" should be higher, with the "just right" correspondingly adjusted downward.
    The methodology used to select players to participate in this survey was:

    1.) A random sample of players from among all RIFT players opted-in to receive email communications from Trion Worlds (this is a legal requirement to comply with CAN-SPAM regulations).
    2.) Must have played RIFT since the launch of the Storm Legion expansion.

    My goal was 2,000 responses.

    To get statistically valid results, the minimum number of responses is 300 (±5.66% at a 95% level of confidence). The gold standard is 1,000 responses, which yields results in the ±3.1% range.

    What are you referring to when you cite a flawed sample selection process?

    Quote Originally Posted by Grandevr View Post
    2) Word-Clouding these responses is only done by someone interested in investing minimal time for short-cut answers/diagrams. There is a disconcerting of any genuine analysis of questionnaire responses, and this is entirely shameful for anyone involved with game design development.
    .As noted in my original post, the word clouds are not intended to represent our final analysis of anything. This was an early look at the survey results, and nothing more, and a quick way to distill a lot of data into something digestible. They're not meant to represent statistically valid data points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by heyhomes View Post
    Survey... you know I lost a bit of respect for your so called surveys I canceled my sub which has a massive 9 months to run just to prevent a resub next year. So I checked out your survey got to the question of 'what level did you reach before quitting?' the choice was 10, 20, 30, 40 or 50 and wait a minute no 60 option? ...facepalm
    Thanks for letting me know. It looks like they're pointing to the wrong survey after a recent patch. I'll go get that fixed...
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    For your next Storm Legion survey, I suggest you focus on "tedious" vs. "fun", rather than "hard" vs. "easy". When I play, I don't focus on difficulty, I focus on fun.

    You should stop worrying about that small demographic that thinks you're "dumbing down" the game or making it "easy mode".
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    I get a survey every time i unsubscribe, and everytime i make sure i talk about the state of PvP. WTB pvp survey
    Open world pvp in WoW consists of 3 level 90's spawn camping a level 10 in durator
    Open world pvp in RIFT consists of, Oh wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phelim on the Moor View Post
    You should stop worrying about that small demographic that thinks you're "dumbing down" the game or making it "easy mode".
    Game will die if all the hardcores quit
    Last edited by Ahov; 03-18-2013 at 05:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahov View Post
    Game will die if all the hardcores quit
    The game's focus will change, but it most certainly won't 'die'. You aren't irreplaceable.
    Regardless of what happens, people will always be unhappy. Be thankful for what you have and always be constructive.
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    good or the best
    This quote offers insight into why there are so many perceived balance issues. To some, it doesn't matter how good something is; if it isn't the best, it isn't worth using.

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