Account Bound PA: The Solution People Haven't Seen

[Implying]

Okay. I've seen the problem. People are discouraged from alt-ing because of PA.

Solution:

A toggle which can be changed ONCE PER-WEEK to select the character which will gain PA from the following:

-Weekly Quests
-Daily Quests
-Raids
-Dungeon Rewards
-Probably something else I've forgotten

This means that you will still be able to get exp from regular mob killing and dungeon tokens. Raid tokens done on the non-PA toon will not be gained (maybe some sort of work around for this).

Put the toggle on the character select screen. And it you would have the option of picking which toon was able to gain PA for your account that week via the aforementioned quests etc.

Comments/suggestions to improve this are welcome.

How has nobody thought of this yet....

[AlexTrickle]

Ive already stated this should be the case several times. However i am not sure trion will do anything more with pa in the forseeable future what with increasing the level cap in the expansion, and so far they are yet to reveal what our current pa will become.

[Cammyle]

I like your idea but think it should be inverted. weekly/dailies are large exp boosts which are in limited supply for a character. If it is possible to get multiple of these boosts it enables people to get their daily boost, switch to a different character, get the same boost again, switch, boost again, etc, until they got the "limited" boosts from 6 different characters each day. This way people with more characters will have an advantage over people with less.

If this feature is inverted, then all exp from kills and repeatable content should go to the character you selected. This way nobody has an advantage over anyone else, but still lets you play alts while getting exp for your main character.

[Implying]

If this feature is inverted, then all exp from kills and repeatable content should go to the character you selected.

Thats what I said. The rest of your alts cannot gain the exp from the listed things unless they were selected for that week.

[Ancem]

Okay. I've seen the problem. People are discouraged from alt-ing because of PA.
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The people who see this as a problem are mostly min/max players who by their very nature will never be satisfied. Trion has not addressed the "problem" because it is only a problem to a small minority of players and diverting resources from things that benefit the entire playerbase to issues that concern a small minority who will not be satisfied anyway is not a good way to run a business.

There's a rule of thumb in business, 20% of your customers are responsible for 80% of your problems. When you see something that seems to go on for months without being addressed by Trion developers, ask yourself, is this a concern to 20% of the players, or the other 80%? If relatively few players care about the issue, then it is not likely to receive immediate attention.

[Implying]

Sorry. I meant that raid tokens will still be gained. I had a brain fart.

[Necrotique]

Turn that weekly toggle into a weekly quest & server based for all toons on that server. Have the reward be a token you then redeem at an NPC which then offers the characters you can select from which will pin that selection until another token is redeemed & subsequent character selected.

In the end it will be all characters played are funneling their PA's to 1 selected character per server until changed to another character or deselected for individual PA gain (like it is now).

[Matsu]

Okay. I've seen the problem. People are discouraged from alt-ing because of PA.

Solution:

A toggle which can be changed ONCE PER-WEEK to select the character which will gain PA from the following:

-Weekly Quests
-Daily Quests
-Raids
-Dungeon Rewards
-Probably something else I've forgotten

This means that you will still be able to get exp from regular mob killing and dungeon tokens. Raid tokens done on the non-PA toon will not be gained (maybe some sort of work around for this).

Put the toggle on the character select screen. And it you would have the option of picking which toon was able to gain PA for your account that week via the aforementioned quests etc.

Comments/suggestions to improve this are welcome.

How has nobody thought of this yet....

Suggestion. Remove PA.

[Galibier]

The problem is that any of these plans defeat the purpose of PA. The purpose, as much as peeps want to dodge it, is to be another level grind between adventure level cap rises. So when you hit 50 you had PA to grind. When you hit 60 you will have PA to grind. For sub based games you need a grind to keep the subscription ticking.

Not only that but the amount of PA you can get from just doing Chronicles and now Conquest, forget about all the different loops, onslaughts, IAs etc you can do, its just crazy. My Rogue was behind the eightball as I moth balled him months ago. Not camping on conquest I have earned 7k worth of PA exp.

[Nestran]

I don't understand why you would want to send PA to a character that you don't want to play. If you're not willing to play the alt to gain the PA, what makes you think you will play the alt once it has welfare PA applied to it?

I don't even have real alts, just some characters I mess with but TBH, I have way much to do on my main to bother with an alt.

I can see some like to fill all the roles but again, if you are not willing to play the tune to get the PA, what's the point? Sounds like the game is becoming a need rather than entertainment to you.

[Galibier]

The point is to twink. You take that under geared alt into a dungeon, raid zone whatever and the run takes a fair amount of time. Take the toon that already has a lot of PA and has the encounters over geared and a series of rapid assaults feed a lot of PA to the toon doing nothing.

I can see the idea the idea of doing that with gear. Make gear BoA (with voucher), make MoA and GMOA transferrable with vouchers bought with multiple ISS (since ISS can be transferred with planarite) These things are either getting sharded, doing nothing, or vendored. Just damn silly imo. You could then use the marks to buy PA exp. Just handing over PA exp makes no sense though.

Before people say there is no difference, there is a difference because it minimizes the grind as the over geared toon blasts through the content. However adding an additional step, say 2 ISS per MoA, 3 per GMoA, means you have to do other stuff in order to get it transferred to the other toon. This won't get a lot of support though because again it is not serving their purpose, trying to minimize or eliminate the grind.

[Soze]

I personally just want the PA cap to be raised so I have a reason to log in again between raids. Right now I just play Rift less and less because I am capped and cannot advance my main character any further.

[Pixel Monkey]

just because your character has reached level 50 does not mean it has finished leveling up

[Amethyriel]

for stomrlegion,

introduce new pa levels that take around 4x the time (maybe 4x the benefits aswell) it takes now to to max them, and make it acc bound in stormlegion

results: people gain xp longer without xp being wasted if you play an alt

[hardy83]

I would just prefer PA to be renamed something else and make it act like the legacy system in ToR.

I really doubt that will happen though.

I just don't see the point of levelling an alt when PA takes so much time/effort to level, and with the mentoring system, there's even less of a point to level an alt.
Which I guess is fine, not every game needs to have a focus on alts.