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    Hey,

    as an archetype I have always played melee dps or tank. Current direction of Rift has made me reconsider if I would buy this game expansion. Latest set we have got is a new instance with basically no boss that melee dps could do their thing. They are forced into whatever movement olympics devs want them to do, like puppets. This is not a complaining of not being able to move, but a real stating that:

    IF YOU KEEP NEW STUFF MELEE UNFRIENDLY, YOU CAN KISS ME AND MY MATES goodbye!

    Have fun and my most respect Rift team,

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    Now I've heard people throw the "me and my friends" phrase around a couiple times since the expansion announcement. I'm curious. Do you mean you and your mates, as in a guild for hundreds of people but really only mean 2 or 3?

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    plz tell me that OP is trolling. plz plz plz
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drigr View Post
    Now I've heard people throw the "me and my friends" phrase around a couiple times since the expansion announcement. I'm curious. Do you mean you and your mates, as in a guild for hundreds of people but really only mean 2 or 3?
    Whenever they say that, they are only talking about three people: Me, myself, and I.

    They're not exactly gathered around the Declaration of Indepence with pens in hand, that's for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drigr View Post
    Now I've heard people throw the "me and my friends" phrase around a couiple times since the expansion announcement. I'm curious. Do you mean you and your mates, as in a guild for hundreds of people but really only mean 2 or 3?
    Nice pitch, thank you 1st mate!

    And to disappoint you I have to tell you, it is only me quitting (shusss don't tell anybody, the last be Trion). And I dare to suppose that you are a mighty ranged type that never need to have a bit of a jogging while... as you see obviously have it easy and ranged has it hard. Please join a Laethys (Rusila. Ituziel, Conclave or Drak) fight as a melee, meaning you are disconnected at some point. Then explain me how few us that dare to speak in melee's behalf, even try?

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    Honestly, I would LOVE to do ID raids, but I am no where near hardcore enough to be T3 yet (not even T2 ready). But! I DO run a druidcar most of the time, which works best in melee range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanster View Post
    Nice pitch, thank you 1st mate!

    And to disappoint you I have to tell you, it is only me quitting (shusss don't tell anybody, the last be Trion). And I dare to suppose that you are a mighty ranged type that never need to have a bit of a jogging while... as you see obviously have it easy and ranged has it hard. Please join a Laethys (Rusila. Ituziel, Conclave or Drak) fight as a melee, meaning you are disconnected at some point. Then explain me how few us that dare to speak in melee's behalf, even try?
    I learned a long, long time ago that in these games most of the enemies are melee-focused. This makes ranged attacks more effective and more likely to help my toon survive. When you can attack from 30 yards away and your opponent is two shots away from death when he gets close enough to poke you with his pointy stick you die a lot less often.

    If you enjoy the challenge of trying to poke him with your pointy stick while he pokes you, more power to you. But there's a reason why I enjoy playing ranged attackers like rogues and mages in these games.

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    Please have a responsable adult pick up all your toys scattered around your pram, somebody might trip over them, thanks in advance

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drigr View Post
    Now I've heard people throw the "me and my friends" phrase around a couiple times since the expansion announcement. I'm curious. Do you mean you and your mates, as in a guild for hundreds of people but really only mean 2 or 3?
    whenever people say "mates" in that context, i cant help but think mates as in the people they mate with

    i get that its a cultural thing that some people say, but i dunno, it sounds weird, its like someone saying, "me and my partners"

    anyway, as someone who used the "me and my friends will leave" line when i was 14 playing WoW, i can say for me, it involved 1 friend and a sibling, and i didnt even know their stance on it

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    I don't get it, why that title?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rizaun View Post
    I don't get it, why that title?
    It's kind of imaginative. Disregard melee only dps types and they will sink a ship called Rift the Game.

    I know my (warrior) aoe is brutal and I'd say op in pvp. Yes in that regard... mmm... okay nurf their pve damage.. or something... just make them... move a "bit" around. On the other hand, make ranged move an inch and they **** their "rotation" would there be no QQ?

    Thing is that current end game bosses favours other than warriors. The best way to kill Laethys and raid needs a cleric tank. Melee having the least time to react taking the most damage on Rusila. Disconnecting because bloody waves and boss jogging around at Ituziel. Getting killed by Ereetu's meteorite while moving out of the same boss' shard/crystal aoe.

    So, yes please I invite anybody of you who can restrict their attack abilities to melee range to join the happy swappy community of dps warriors. We had a semi-proper ranged stuff that was QQ:ed off of us for pvp.

    Similarly I hear raid mages saying; "what's the problem. I also do this at melee range and don't die or loose dps". OFC they don't, they don't have minimum only maximum range. Would love to see the QQ when a ranged being 1 pixel away or facing 1 degree too much away would get the same screen messages that a warrior gets. And the ... mmmm... our delicious charge (bull rush) is unusable on most boss fights. You a) end up in front of the boss and die to cleave/frontal attack or b) end up too far from your target. Bug's been here since the release.

    I love to hate my class!

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    bye bye


    ,.ftr there is no direct correlation between your ego and the community
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanster View Post
    It's kind of imaginative. Disregard melee only dps types and they will sink a ship called Rift the Game.

    I know my (warrior) aoe is brutal and I'd say op in pvp. Yes in that regard... mmm... okay nurf their pve damage.. or something... just make them... move a "bit" around. On the other hand, make ranged move an inch and they **** their "rotation" would there be no QQ?

    Thing is that current end game bosses favours other than warriors. The best way to kill Laethys and raid needs a cleric tank. Melee having the least time to react taking the most damage on Rusila. Disconnecting because bloody waves and boss jogging around at Ituziel. Getting killed by Ereetu's meteorite while moving out of the same boss' shard/crystal aoe.

    So, yes please I invite anybody of you who can restrict their attack abilities to melee range to join the happy swappy community of dps warriors. We had a semi-proper ranged stuff that was QQ:ed off of us for pvp.

    Similarly I hear raid mages saying; "what's the problem. I also do this at melee range and don't die or loose dps". OFC they don't, they don't have minimum only maximum range. Would love to see the QQ when a ranged being 1 pixel away or facing 1 degree too much away would get the same screen messages that a warrior gets. And the ... mmmm... our delicious charge (bull rush) is unusable on most boss fights. You a) end up in front of the boss and die to cleave/frontal attack or b) end up too far from your target. Bug's been here since the release.

    I love to hate my class!
    Truth. We ranged types have never been one-shotted by a boss ability. It only happens to warriors. *thumbs up* Bosses never have mechanics that pull us into melee range to be cleaved and there's never any AoE on the ground we have to move out of. Ever.
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    You guys are being really unfair and rather mean.

    I'm not a "non-lifer" and I'm ID ready and even tanked on the first boss as off-tank. So, I can say that yes, the whole mechanic in boss fights in game are really melee unfriendly.

    I'm always on ranged spec, so I can have a better view of the whole fight. We had in the guild some badass warriors with insane damage, but had constant drops on their dps because they had to constantly dance back and forth to avoid aoe, auras and whatsoever. While the ranged peeps, me included, just kept our dps stead and our HP full from our comfortable spot, away from the boss.

    Hopefully they'll be addressing this matter on the expansion. At least they say they're going to turn raiding less of a job and more into a fun thing you do with friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ancem View Post
    I learned a long, long time ago that in these games most of the enemies are melee-focused. This makes ranged attacks more effective and more likely to help my toon survive. When you can attack from 30 yards away and your opponent is two shots away from death when he gets close enough to poke you with his pointy stick you die a lot less often.

    If you enjoy the challenge of trying to poke him with your pointy stick while he pokes you, more power to you. But there's a reason why I enjoy playing ranged attackers like rogues and mages in these games.
    It's not just a problem with Rift. when I put down other MMO's and picked up Rift I promised myself I would never play a melee dps character again. Best gaming decision ever. No more being relegated to the bosses *** with the pets. no more sitting this one out because it's better, easier, faster less stress on the healers, whatever with ranged dps

    Somewhat ironically in Rift, even as ranged I seem to spend a lot of time stacked on some bosses ***

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