Can we PLEASE have events be more in tune with the storyline?

[Plavem]

Because its an obvious break between player and character. If it was a celebration in storyline - some telaran holiday - maybe - but santa hats? It totally breaks immersion.

I find it amazing how very few people understand that things from our world like Santa would not exist in some alien world. Some other mythical celebration, sure. But Santa just says "we dont take Telara seriously"...

Have you ever been to an alien world? Better yet, have you ever been to Africa, or Iraq / Iran? This is a perfect example of a war torn world, however, they still celebrate their holidays and such. It is what gives them hope, a reason to live, a reason to continue fighting.

Your real life must be pretty bad if you can not appreciate a Christmas event. Not to mention if God is real then why would they not celebrate Christmas? As well as most of us playing the game are people who live on earth and know what a Christmas holiday is. However, when they announce RIFT - Pluto, then I might concern myself with what aliens think.

Thanks, have a nice day.

[Noudamarye]

Have you ever been to an alien world? Better yet, have you ever been to Africa, or Iraq / Iran? This is a perfect example of a war torn world, however, they still celebrate their holidays and such. It is what gives them hope, a reason to live, a reason to continue fighting.

Your real life must be pretty bad if you can not appreciate a Christmas event. Not to mention if God is real then why would they not celebrate Christmas? As well as most of us playing the game are people who live on earth and know what a Christmas holiday is. However, when they announce RIFT - Pluto, then I might concern myself with what aliens think.

Thanks, have a nice day.

It is 100% safe to say that any other world does not have a santa and reindeer legend. Period.

Grasp at straws, make fun of my life - whatever. A christmas event on a world with its own Gods is just plain out-of-character and doesn't belong.

[aerisod]

I think this thread is immersion-breaking.

[Noudamarye]

Not to mention if God is real then why would they not celebrate Christmas? As well as most of us playing the game are people who live on earth and know what a Christmas holiday is. However, when they announce RIFT - Pluto, then I might concern myself with what aliens think.

Thanks, have a nice day.

This is a perfect example of someone that doesn't understand role playing or SEPARATION OF PLAYER AND CHARACTER.

You mention if God is real, why wouldnt they celebrate xmas... In case you didn't notice, telara has its own lore and its own Gods and its own holidays. Christmas, and the christian God isn't one of them. Ever see Jesus pop out of a shrine? It doesn't belong.

Most of us on earth grew up with it? Yup. But not the personae we play on Telara. They grew up with Regulos and Tavril. If an event was centered around a central event like the killing of Regulos, that would be in character. Celebration of gifts, Santa, Jesus and reindeer? That's an earth based event and out-of-character.

The fact that I know what christmas is, is not relevant. My character, as a High Elf, has her own God(s) and Telera has its own holidays. The xmas event was out-of-character for Telara and as such, was immersion breaking.

When we see reindeer and santa - we think of our world, not telara. That is immersion breaking.

I don't understand why when a RPer asks for something, the shoot em up, stat counting hoard jumps down our throat. My argument is clear, valid and makes sense. Its just when someone actually thinks, it threatens the people that only know how to max stats and don't have any time for in game character thinking.

[Luteuel]

I like what trion has done with all the events. still immersed here!

[RengarA]

This is a perfect example of someone that doesn't understand role playing or SEPARATION OF PLAYER AND CHARACTER.

You mention if God is real, why wouldnt they celebrate xmas... In case you didn't notice, telara has its own lore and its own Gods and its own holidays. Christmas, and the christian God isn't one of them. Ever see Jesus pop out of a shrine? It doesn't belong.

Most of us on earth grew up with it? Yup. But not the personae we play on Telara. They grew up with Regulos and Tavril. If an event was centered around a central event like the killing of Regulos, that would be in character. Celebration of gifts, Santa, Jesus and reindeer? That's an earth based event and out-of-character.

The fact that I know what christmas is, is not relevant. My character, as a High Elf, has her own God(s) and Telera has its own holidays. The xmas event was out-of-character for Telara and as such, was immersion breaking.

When we see reindeer and santa - we think of our world, not telara. That is immersion breaking.

I don't understand why when a RPer asks for something, the shoot em up, stat counting hoard jumps down our throat. My argument is clear, valid and makes sense. Its just when someone actually thinks, it threatens the people that only know how to max stats and don't have any time for in game character thinking.

It's simple really. The majority of players couldn't care less about role-playing and immersion in the game. It's not important to them, so they will feel that your complaints are trivial despite the fact it's something that is very important to you personally.

It also doesn't help that one of the current rallying cries of unhappiness with games is "You are breaking my immersion."
It has become significantly over used. Rather than invoking sympathy for a particular view it mainly just causes a bunch of eye rolling.

It is my opinion that a good role-player rather than complaining about all of the thing is a world that he doesn't like Out of Character, instead incorporates the dislikes of these things in character. Maybe such a character would believe that they leadership of both factions are wasting considerable amounts of time and resources on a celebration when they could be using them stop the remaining cults and Dragons of the Blood Storm or against the opposite faction.

I general I believe immersion is what the player makes of it, and shouldn't be reliant on the game to provide it for them. (Though it is nice when the game helps them along at times. )

[TheGrinnz]

p.s. santa isn't real

[Noudamarye]

I like what trion has done with all the events. still immersed here!

I respect and love that you like the game. Enjoy.

[Odnoc]

This is a perfect example of someone that doesn't understand role playing or SEPARATION OF PLAYER AND CHARACTER.

You mention if God is real, why wouldnt they celebrate xmas... In case you didn't notice, telara has its own lore and its own Gods and its own holidays. Christmas, and the christian God isn't one of them. Ever see Jesus pop out of a shrine? It doesn't belong.

Most of us on earth grew up with it? Yup. But not the personae we play on Telara. They grew up with Regulos and Tavril. If an event was centered around a central event like the killing of Regulos, that would be in character. Celebration of gifts, Santa, Jesus and reindeer? That's an earth based event and out-of-character.

The fact that I know what christmas is, is not relevant. My character, as a High Elf, has her own God(s) and Telera has its own holidays. The xmas event was out-of-character for Telara and as such, was immersion breaking.

When we see reindeer and santa - we think of our world, not telara. That is immersion breaking.

I don't understand why when a RPer asks for something, the shoot em up, stat counting hoard jumps down our throat. My argument is clear, valid and makes sense. Its just when someone actually thinks, it threatens the people that only know how to max stats and don't have any time for in game character thinking.

Lot's of reasonable reasons why they would celebrate Christmas (according to christians (yes, it is a christian holiday) their god is the one and only god, so wouldn't that make him god in Telara also?? o.0), and who is it that says other worlds are completely different than ours, I suggest you look into physics and things like string theory.

BTW
I didn't see any reindeer or santa..

[Noudamarye]

It's simple really. The majority of players couldn't care less about role-playing and immersion in the game. It's not important to them, so they will feel that your complaints are trivial despite the fact it's something that is very important to you personally.

It also doesn't help that one of the current rallying cries of unhappiness with games is "You are breaking my immersion."
It has become significantly over used. Rather than invoking sympathy for a particular view it mainly just causes a bunch of eye rolling.

It is my opinion that a good role-player rather than complaining about all of the thing is a world that he doesn't like Out of Character, instead incorporates the dislikes of these things in character. Maybe such a character would believe that they leadership of both factions are wasting considerable amounts of time and resources on a celebration when they could be using them stop the remaining cults and Dragons of the Blood Storm or against the opposite faction.

I general I believe immersion is what the player makes of it, and shouldn't be reliant on the game to provide it for them. (Though it is nice when the game helps them along at times. )

Well said, and I agree.

Still, I feel that I should be able to voice my concern without these people being threatened. I really love when they argue against something the clearly don't understand.

Bottom line, wouldn't more of us be happy if these events were more in line with telara? Wouldn't most of us rather fight a dragon than a Pinyata? Enjoy a celebration of a telaran holiday just as much if not more than bringing earthly holidays into the game?

Hell, even when they throw RPers a bone, marriages - the masses make fun of it - and then trion themselves mock it by turning it into a free for all record setting event - where characters are marrying random characters to set a record - which is a totally mockery of role playing again.

I wish some of these people would stop for a second and see it from the old school RPers point of view. We grew up with pen and paper and brought these types of games to the big time. Now, they are overrun by people that want to play them line a coin-op. It's very disheartening to see RPGs cheapened and turned into stat competitions and l33t dudes.

Throw us a bone once and a while for crying out loud. Let us have immersive events instead of comedic ones.

[Noudamarye]

Lot's of reasonable reasons why they would celebrate Christmas (according to christians (yes, it is a christian holiday) their god is the one and only god, so wouldn't that make him god in Telara also?? o.0), and who is it that says other worlds are completely different than ours, I suggest you look into physics and things like string theory.

BTW
I didn't see any reindeer or santa..

No, it doesn't. Read Telara lore. A Christian God does not exist. The lore says its different - read it.


Didn't see santa? I saw the santa hats everywhere. reindeer - don't see all those reindeer mounts?

You say there are lots of reasons they'd celebrate the birth of Christ? Hmm, maybe not, since it never happened on telara. The Gods of Telara are well documented in the lore. Since Christ never existed - its hard to imaging a celebration of his birth.

But since no reasoning skills seem to be needed to argue for the Christmas event by some of you - I'll stop using logic and common sense. You're right, all of telara woke up one day and said "Hey, lets have a big celebration for some God we've never heard of..." Yeah, that makes complete sense.

Again - you're showing no clue of separation of player and the character he/she plays.

[BehemothDog]

This event is celebrating The deaths of LGS and AKY, and all the other things the Ascended have done.
Also the 1 year anniversary of rift.

And yes, we get a dragon at the end. Like you said u wanted.

Waves of madness was part of the story and also The ROS one (I forget its name)

So whats the issue here?

[Noudamarye]

This event is celebrating The deaths of LGS and AKY, and all the other things the Ascended have done.
Also the 1 year anniversary of rift.

And yes, we get a dragon at the end. Like you said u wanted.

Waves of madness was part of the story and also The ROS one (I forget its name)

So whats the issue here?

Perhaps there is none. The pinyatas felt like the start of another event like the xmas one, and I hated that for the reasons stated.

[BehemothDog]

Perhaps there is none. The pinyatas felt like the start of another event like the xmas one, and I hated that for the reasons stated.

Well I remember threads asking for Holiday events.

Just lay back and enjoy the game. we still have a few dragons to destroy.

There are "Non RP" players that like that silly fluff stuff.

[Trehearn]

Guys,

After playing for a few months, I can see the devs are trying to keep the game light hearted, but I believe this detracts from the game itself. Especially for those of us that view it as a place to role play in a fantasy setting.

The world is being torn apart by conflict - and at xmas - we have boglings with santa hats. the fae realm is no longer overly corrupted by greenscale, as he is dead, and many of the fae are no longer enslaved, this is a event to be celebrated

Now, we have dragon pinyatas... 2 of teh dragons have beat killed, 2 other ones are basically on the run, this is a huge boost for morale, during ww2, their were many celebrations even while the war was still ongoing, they celebrated major victories, or even just celebrated to further boost morale.

I love that you're making events... But how about the same idea, but perhaps with some sort of planar souls that are making it into Telara that need to be slain?

Seriously, for those of us that want to believe we are in Telara - fighting for our lives - this silly stuff ruins immersion.

I brought this up in channels - and pretty much got told - don't like it - leave. Hey, can't we all get a better game by combining thoughts? I'm not saying get rid of world events... devs... Just take your own world a litle more seriously. There are some of us out here that are trying desperately to find an RPG with a story line with decent immersion.

Silly santa hats, pinyatas, artifacts like deer tear (with comment that say "you monster") all ruin immersion. If the devs are doing that - how can we discourage names like "leetdude" from players?

You've got a very beautiful world, storyline, and dynamic events. Please take the world a little more seriously. I logged off today because I felt like I was playing a coin op.

Noudamarye

just because a world is being torn apart, and forces are invaded on all sides, does not mean you have to be in a desolute, barren, world of darkness, their are always brighter sides, and "fun" aspects even during times of war.