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    Quote Originally Posted by Morvick View Post
    Total healing isn't necessarily as important as if you can main-heal a target, at least when you opt to compare yourself to a MH Cleric.

    Bards can help allies lick their wounds, but they quickly fall behind when trying to heal 1 target who's taking massive damage.
    Much like Justicars in that respect, actually.
    hence support

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mushy2000 View Post
    search for a program called X-padder then get back to me.

    I have the ability to switch between 6 active hotkeybars with one controller press

    Hold left D-pad(shift) + A(1) hotbar 1
    Bam set of skills
    Hold left d-pad B(2)
    Bam set of skills

    and so on. I actually have more diversity in what i do than you, oh and all i do is click a button on thecontroller so it's actually faster than mouse.


    tab targets btw
    I'm sorry, but no you don't. I have every single ability I use bound to my mouse as a straight click, or with an alt/ctrl modifier. I can perform 33 actions between my thumb and middle finger on my right hand, and my pinky on my left hand. All without wasting time swapping bars or removing my ability to move by needing to let go of sticks momentarily.

    And the hell? You think we all click skill icons? Do you even know what the keybind menu looks like? Well, you have no damn idea what macros can be used for, so probably not.

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    There's a reason the console community has never, ever been taken seriously when it comes to competitive gaming.

    That reason is the control medium. Controllers can never, ever match the capabilities of a basic keyboard/mouse.

    You will never play Rift at a high level because you are simply incapable of doing so with that setup. You will never be a force in PvP and you will never be able to raid.

    Deal with it. Come back to us when you get good.
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    I really want to respond to this troll.

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    I'm still laughing at the Xbox controller bit... sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adusrea View Post
    I really want to respond to this troll.

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    more like 9/10 cause that's how many pages I got.

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    I'm still laughing at the bit where he reckons he outheals clerics with a Bard!!! Is the cleric afk or dead?

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    I wanted to make an analogy.. like playing football in flipflops and complaining about it but then I heard my mum in my head telling me that I shouldn't mock the special kids.

    There, there, you're not a failure, you're successfully challenged.

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    I wish I could find the article. It was about Microsoft testing FPS games having console vs PC all in the same server..but they scrapped it because the BEST console players couldn't beat the WORST PC players.

    lol


    And the OP clearly doesn't know what the in-game macro system is.

    I wouldn't even call it a "macro" in the general sense. I'd call it more.. "trickle down customization", or TDC for short.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Azyurel View Post
    I .... Smell......troll....and....must....resist!!!!
    Dude you aint a tank using reaver or warlord? sorry i am and i dont have 20 fingers, and i cant reach for that many keybinds. Macros are not playing the game for you i have many not 1 "tank" button, i have to think about my strategy and use my skills in different situations. Go back to your xbox.
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    OP as the game designers aka TRION are the only ones who can difinitively say what is and is not cheating...and TRION have placed a macro interface built into the game...I think your a bit off base..
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    i play with 2 buttons true story, well still better then WAR, in war was 1 button smash, with nerfedbuttons.
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    Good Luck Mushy.. You have an uphill battle on this topic.. This new generation is LOST without their addons and macros.. OMG, How in the heck can someone actually heal another player using only their mouse to target, or function (F1) keys.. Using addons and macros is like putting training wheels on a bike while super charging it with nitro.. Gaming today is all about Easier and Faster..

    Nice post there OP.. I agree with you if that helps you any..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mushy2000 View Post
    I'm new to mmo's I'm a console gamer, played wow for a month hated it, now I play this game for two months.

    I used an xbox 360 controller to play because I don't understand how people can use a mouse and the numrow to use skills... Then I come to find out, THEY DON'T... People use macro's to automatically play for them. It's kind of irritating to know some lazy person is coming up to you and hitting one button to execute their whole entire rotation. Like I said I use an Xbox 360 controller and I play just fine, I play the game like a console game and it's fun...it just irks me to know people are that obsessed with gaining maximum efficiency, they will not only bypass normal supported gameplay, but they will use a crutch such as a macro to accomplish this.

    For my controller I use left stick to move, right stick for mouse(mouse speed increase 3x) ABYX(1234) RBLB(56) SelectStart(78) left on Dpad(Shift for changing hotbars) and right on dpad for Tab to select enemies.

    I guess people assume learning how to combat is not important, which is why I consider macro use cheating
    We use macros, and we dont jus stand in one spot and spam it. We have to be aware of our surroundings in order to make a successful attempt, u need skill to do those. Please, id advice you to stick with ur xbox. dont come to our pc world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delicious0101 View Post
    i play with 2 buttons true story, well still better then WAR, in war was 1 button smash, with nerfedbuttons.
    Bad players play with 1 button

    As for the OP, even with macros there are plenty of abilities you will use, and to maximize your effectiveness, except for the melee dps cleric build you will still use more button than your Xbox controller will provide for you. I play a dps warrior and the 1 button macro while doable and can produce ok dps, its not the best way to go, and even then its not 1 button its 2 which is still bad if you want to maximize your dps.

    The only MMO that is effective with a controller is FFXI, and FFXIV there may be a couple more but those are the only ones I have experienced. For some very important reasons, fist is right click turn...if you are joystick turning its not fast enough for raiding, and thats a 100% guarantee. Not enough buttons, explained above even with macros there are reasons to have lots of buttons.

    Anyways I have read through some of this thread and see the remote user saying he out heals people and crap, and if you are a console gamer, and happen to believe macros are cheating I think its safe to say you also don't believe in combat parsers, and are pulling crap out of your butt.
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