gearscore was after I quit and sounds like something I'd be against really as it doesn't help someone improve it simply shows a stat that anyone with a brain can do in their head instantly.. however meters I find very different as I have seen the improvement players have made to their cycles by using them as a tester during trash and it really cuts down on those who don't pull their own weight.
Recruiting HC PVP Raiders on the Defiant Side."I am a well-oiled killing machine. With the fury of my blades, I can exploit your every weakness. With each swing of my weapons, your death quickly approaches. My mind and my blade are one."
Originally Posted by silentwraith
I was a rogue. I referred to CC as something simple like a blind or an enhanced gouge(talented to last longer) to give the mage time to get a sheep on it or "tanking" as hitting evasion and perhaps preperation and evasion again until either the mob was dead or the remaining tank had it under control. I did this all the time when something happened(bad pulls as an example from before) or if the tank died quick. You would be surprised what anywhere from 5 to 20 seconds can buy a raid of good players. And yes, the successes on those WTF pulls were some nice rushes.
"I don't know, I'm making this up as I go."
Multiple amounts of people believe that photographs steal your soul. I don't consider that a fact either. And your entire point is that other people share your opinion. That is fine, you're welcome to it. But stop pretending it is fact and 100% correct with zero proof. Anecdotes are not proof. Testimonials are not proof.
And as to religion offending some people, well... what can I say? It exists. If people can't accept a religion existing, then it sounds like they have at least a mild case of intolerance.
There is no need to compromise, you act like you or this has any say in what they will put in.
You can't make compromises, because you are not in charge.
And just because people share the same opinion as you, does not make it a fact.
I would be upset if Meters were added, but gearscore is where I would say I will not be playing. Any fool can be carried. It's a flawed system.
No wonder you were chewed out... I don't blame them... A rogues roll in any WoW raid is purely DPS not an OT if you were OT you failed horribly.. and any good rogue in wow will tell you this.. the blind is great but putting points into it for a raid scenario is again so much fail.... either your raid was terrible for dying and you were playing with casuals or you pulled agro when you shouldn't have ... Rogues in WoW are not tanks.
Recruiting HC PVP Raiders on the Defiant Side."I am a well-oiled killing machine. With the fury of my blades, I can exploit your every weakness. With each swing of my weapons, your death quickly approaches. My mind and my blade are one."
I've evade tanked bosses to finish them off as well on my rogue, but if you were doing this consistently then you were with bad pugs. If you're with a bad pug, what makes you think that they're going to be doing things correctly? Yelling at you about your dps is just one additional thing that they are doing wrong. It is not the cause, it is one of the symptoms.
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Recruiting HC PVP Raiders on the Defiant Side."I am a well-oiled killing machine. With the fury of my blades, I can exploit your every weakness. With each swing of my weapons, your death quickly approaches. My mind and my blade are one."
I admit that I used the gearscore addon when I was pugging raids. I used to have to pug 1-3 spots for a raid, and gear score allows you to cache other people's scans, so you have a mobile armory with you. It was great to not have to alt tab and use WoW's armory, especially since it was prone to bugs and just not loading. I never abused it though, excluding someone simply because they didn't have some magical score.
I equate them probably because they became rampant in PUGs around the time I left. To be fair, more of the issue is with gearscore, but gear and dps are still an inexact science in determining how well a player does their class. I think it's the slope I'd rather have railed off as opposed to saying just don't go down it.
"I don't know, I'm making this up as I go."
Oh, it wasn't a consistent thing, but it happened as rogues are often 2nd or 3rd on the hate list, so if the tank or healer lags and the tank dies, guess who is next. I'm not going to feint if I'm on top with no warriors in position to take the mob and get the healers in more trouble. I'll hold it down ready to pop a potion until the other tank can get it. Points weren't in blind they were in gouge. That was before dual spec.
Edit: And this was on trash, not bosses.
Last edited by BucMan; 12-10-2010 at 02:20 AM.
"I don't know, I'm making this up as I go."
I did enjoy watching raid leaders get frustrated when a player used gear that was of no use to his class in order to raise the score since it went solely by item level at first. That was funny.
"I don't know, I'm making this up as I go."
So, that's your counter to my post? Bringing up a ridiculous statement like that didn't counter my statement at all. If anything it served my statement better.
Testimonials are proof to the developers. It can be used as feedback. Simply because it can be, it's indeed factual.
We offered you more than zero proof. Someone even stated that it's a "worst case scenario." You even stated yourself it's possible, yet you keep telling me it's just an opinion.
-sigh- I wish people could honestly read what they're typing sometimes.
Also, nice try insinuating I am intolerant. I have nothing against religion. However, some religious people in the audience may have found your statement regarding it offensive.
Last edited by Haseno; 12-10-2010 at 02:21 AM.
Haseno
"Victory goes to the player who makes the next-to-last mistake."
I love my comma's, deal with it, chump.
Once again no excuse for low dps as a rogue... rogue lock mage hunter should always be way up on the charts..if you were a druid sham I could see why you hated meters as you added utility yet hit low but those four have only one person to blame if they don't hit high.. themselves.. either you should have speced better... geared up... or learned a better rotation.
Recruiting HC PVP Raiders on the Defiant Side."I am a well-oiled killing machine. With the fury of my blades, I can exploit your every weakness. With each swing of my weapons, your death quickly approaches. My mind and my blade are one."
That was SUCH a rampant problem too! I ran into a bunch of plate DPS classes that would wear tanking gear, just for the higher item level. They were really bad when it came to PVP gear too, because that would count towards your gearscore.
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