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    Hey guys,

    Over the past few days, there has been a lot of discussion on the official RIFT forums and other active raiding communities about a possible exploit that allowed raiders to overpower the mechanics in the Laethys and Maelforge encounters.

    While we can't turn back the clock and fully rewind what happened several weeks ago, I'm here today to clear the air and let you know what's been going on here in the studio about this issue.

    First: We are certain that there were exploits in 1.8.

    About two months ago, the team was alerted to an exploit that could be used to gain more power than what should be possible. We spent a lot of effort investigating and reproducing it and we fixed what we found. While we did address the primary issue as rapidly as we could, we weren’t aware of the full severity of the situation as it pertained to finishing the Maelforge encounter.

    One of the side effects of the bug was a world first granted to a very small number of players who chose to abuse it. In short: those achievements were not legitimate.

    I don't think it's necessary for me to tell you that it sucks when something is won unfairly. These kinds of situations undermine the hard work and camaraderie that is the backbone of the RIFT community.

    Second: I want to thank everyone who stepped forward and helped us identify and address these problems. Whether you are posting on the forums or reporting a bug in game, your participation is essential to ensuring that RIFT continues to be awesome and that our team knows what's going on: you are our front lines for information about the good and the bad in the game. Please don't stop reporting issues as you come across them, and please never hesitate to reach out to any of us with a question, concern (or maybe, sometimes, a compliment!) Without you, we wouldn't be here.

    Finally, I want to highlight the guild Special Olympics on our EU shard Blightweald. This crew took on Maelforge and were the first in the world with a legitimate victory. If you want to check out the fight in its entirety (and all its glory) you can find it here on their YouTube channel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AyWRMLsPlRA We are also in the process of correcting our logs so that Special Olympics receives recognition as the first guild to triumph in this encounter and will be taking away the world first designation from the group who previously held the title but earned it through an exploit (these changes will go into effect next week.)

    The internet can be a rough place sometimes and the raid game can be fiercely competitive. We want to make RIFT the best raiding experience possible for everyone, be it a guild vying for a world first or a guild who sets foot into Infernal Dawn for the first time. Without your dedication, we would never have uncovered everything, and more importantly, wouldn't have been able to set the record straight and give you the full story.

    From all of us, thanks for your honesty and persistence. Please, never stop talking, and we'll never stop listening.

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    So you are awarding a guild that exploits with no proof over another guild who had an exploit with proof who got world first? A world first is a world first...They didn't kill Maelforge for 3 weeks until after this was fixed. Explanation?

    Great job Trion, listening to the masses. World first is world first though, we all know who got it.
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    +1 to Trion.

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    Whoa roll backs. That's a first!

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    Ahovv schooled someone.

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    Looks like some sigs will have to be updated.
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    Didn't really expected this one. Think this was a first from Trion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoughRaptors View Post
    So you are awarding a guild that exploits with no proof over another guild who had an exploit with proof who got world first? A world first is a world first...They didn't kill Maelforge for 3 weeks until after this was fixed. Explanation?
    ^

    I don't think the vaguely referenced guild in question was the only guild that exploited, but I know nothing and that's all I'm gonna say.

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    So wait, are you rolling back one single encounter or exploited laethys kills and russila kills too? Just curious as this policy might stretch a little further into ID than you think =)
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    Really? The punishment is "say goodbye to your achieves"?

    Egregious stuff like this is pretty much ban-worthy in other MMO's of note.
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    Ban hammer now used for...door stop?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leif View Post
    Really? The punishment is "say to goodbye to your achieves"?

    Egregious stuff like this is pretty much ban-worthy in other MMO's of note.
    Trion is taking it slow with the punishments it seems - hope they reach the "banning" point when Storm Legion hits. This is almost as bad as exploiting gets.
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    Well considering this was months ago, I don't quite understand how they can do this. They need to check logs, realize both guilds used exploits, call it at that. [edit]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leif View Post
    Really? The punishment is "say to goodbye to your achieves"?

    Egregious stuff like this is pretty much ban-worthy in other MMO's of note.
    While it definitely would be in FFXI and other old school MMOs, this isn't the same type of MMO. Mostly anything made past 2005 have had their punishments severely limited. Also, it isn't in their best interest in banning top end raiders as these are the players lowbies usually look up, regardless if they made questionable decisions.
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