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    Quote Originally Posted by Evilleprechaun View Post
    PHOON yellin "SPAM NATURAL HEALING ON EVIL RIGHT NOW BRONN!!!!!!!" classic
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    Never thought I'd hear the day when a raid leader calls out, "SPAM NATURAL HEALING!!!!" I get why but lulz that was the best part of the video for me. That last phase looks crazy. I just wish the waves mattered as in harder to avoid.

    Here's to seeing Air Waves in Crucia's raid! LET'S GO!
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    Quote Originally Posted by intrinsc View Post
    I think I've watched this video 10-12 times now. Even if this was Addiction or SO I'd still watch it because it's that good. Fuill props tp Bubz for his amazing artistic talent and all the hard work and dedication of No Quarter prior to me joining.
    At the end I peeled off and went to DPS maelforge completely ignoring what I was supposed to do. I figure I saved us a few seconds.

    I also like how Ahovv conveniently says, " Eveeryyyyyythiiing".

    Khan cool and collected just saying "keep going...clear". I really love this group of guys.
    Its awesome to see people that really love their guild. Its sadly getting more and more rare in MMO's these days.

    Great video needless to say. LOL at Natural Healing Spam.

    I kinda hope Trion does go back in an retune the fight. I know it won't be fair to everyone else, but this fight feels like a shadow of what it could have been, If they make the fight what I think Trion intended it to be, it would be every bit as good as Laethys I think.

    Maybe wait a few weeks for the other guilds that are close to clearing it to get it done, then retune him to what it should be and put it up on the next raid reset. For me (and as a non raider now, its more about the sense that Maelforge feels like he got the shaft. Laethys and Akylios and even LGS (in his day) were epic fights. Maelforge seems like his fight was overshadowed by bugs and broken mechanics. I doubt Trion wants the fight to be remembered for that.

    Seeing videos like this makes me miss progression raiding. Maybe when Storm Legion comes out if I have a job that allows me to do so I'll get back into progression raiding. I did it back in TBC, but the time requirements were just to much for my work schedule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by niochua View Post
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    I apologized to Bron after raid for yelling at him I felt it was necessary.
    To be fair, I felt it was necessary too.

    Also, major props to Bubblez on the vid. He apparently listened to a good amount of music trying to figure out what was apropos for a particular time. Go figure, the DPS music was Move B**** by Ludacris.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intrinsc View Post
    I think I've watched this video 10-12 times now. Even if this was Addiction or SO I'd still watch it because it's that good. Fuill props tp Bubz for his amazing artistic talent.
    What about my video! Geez...harsh.

    BTW my video is now up, tank POV. Sorry it took so long to get uploaded, I've been busy lately.

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    What is the reason some people are "not acknowledging" this kill? I have watched both videos and I don't see anything that looks bugged or less than legit... what's that about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldonia View Post
    What is the reason some people are "not acknowledging" this kill? I have watched both videos and I don't see anything that looks bugged or less than legit... what's that about?
    Ha, that line was from when we pushed him to the final phase and he just airwalked around (above?) his platform and could not be targeted. There was some concern when the problem would be fixed, so it was sort of an "unofficial" world first that's now official.

    Though as a fellow guild member said, this fight was kind of underwhelming. The only major addition was the adds in the first phase and they can be trivialized unless one is going for the achievement. The bugs were amusing at first and then became irritating (he can still bug out during phase transitions after wipes at certain points). The jump buff is really gimmicky and sometimes doesn't work properly or exactly as it feels it was intended to work, and that really ruins phase 1.

    Laethys is, by far, a very tightly-tuned fight that really stands out as the hallmark fight of Infernal Dawn. It doesn't have any gimmicky jump buff, it fluidly integrates a number of challenging mechanics and it requires solid execution by all 20 members of the raid. It will continue to be where guilds get hung up -- like Akylios, it requires that balance of AoE and ST DPS/heals to push transitions in order to make enrage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldonia View Post
    What is the reason some people are "not acknowledging" this kill? I have watched both videos and I don't see anything that looks bugged or less than legit... what's that about?
    Check the URL in my sig, it shows us the transition bug from last week and us having a bit of fun with it. As of Wednesday though he is (somewhat) fixed and killable. He bugs if you die in phase 4 or if I believe to be correct, if someone jumps off the edge in phase 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrownsMageNerfDelivery View Post
    Though as a fellow guild member said, this fight was kind of underwhelming. The only major addition was the adds in the first phase and they can be trivialized unless one is going for the achievement. The bugs were amusing at first and then became irritating (he can still bug out during phase transitions after wipes at certain points). The jump buff is really gimmicky and sometimes doesn't work properly or exactly as it feels it was intended to work, and that really ruins phase 1.
    Well that and they totally gutted phase 2, phase 3, and phase 4, and phase 1 is a bit of a joke. WTB adds that increase damage by 25-50% and heal the boss for at least 10% AFTER heal debuff. At least some requirement to use platforms 2 and 3 in phase 1 would be nice.

    the damage in phase 3 for not killing cannons at the same time is an utter joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RoughRaptors View Post
    Check the URL in my sig, it shows us the transition bug from last week and us having a bit of fun with it. As of Wednesday though he is (somewhat) fixed and killable. He bugs if you die in phase 4 or if I believe to be correct, if someone jumps off the edge in phase 3.
    bah, the best thing in the fight is being able to jump from the ramp to Mael's platform in a 20s jump!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BrownsMageNerfDelivery View Post
    Laethys is, by far, a very tightly-tuned fight that really stands out as the hallmark fight of Infernal Dawn. It doesn't have any gimmicky jump buff, it fluidly integrates a number of challenging mechanics and it requires solid execution by all 20 members of the raid. It will continue to be where guilds get hung up -- like Akylios, it requires that balance of AoE and ST DPS/heals to push transitions in order to make enrage.
    I gotta say Maelforge is the hallmark fight of Infernal Dawn for main tank healers, even if it isn't the hardest fight for anyone else. Sure Laethys phase 1 can be iffy when you run bare-minimum heals, but the rest of the fight is completely dull for puris.

    At first I thought Ituziel was the upper threshold of tank healing. Then phase 1 laethys and phase 2 maelforge came along.

    And then there's phase 4 maelforge healing, which is just crazy, it's just completely nuts when you have a mage yelling over mumble for a 4th healer to help out with natural healing. The main feature of Laethys is to have your dps beating the enrage, whereas maelforge has the much more ominous gaining of dmg-stacks everytime someone dies. Execution of phases 2-4 is paramount, if more than 2 people die, it's almost certainly a wipe. These strenuous healing and execution requirements just do not exist anywhere else in the game.

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    outstanding execution
    thanks for sharing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pixel Monkey View Post
    outstanding execution
    thanks for sharing
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    Quote Originally Posted by squafro View Post
    I gotta say Maelforge is the hallmark fight of Infernal Dawn for main tank healers, even if it isn't the hardest fight for anyone else. Sure Laethys phase 1 can be iffy when you run bare-minimum heals, but the rest of the fight is completely dull for puris.

    At first I thought Ituziel was the upper threshold of tank healing. Then phase 1 laethys and phase 2 maelforge came along.

    And then there's phase 4 maelforge healing, which is just crazy, it's just completely nuts when you have a mage yelling over mumble for a 4th healer to help out with natural healing. The main feature of Laethys is to have your dps beating the enrage, whereas maelforge has the much more ominous gaining of dmg-stacks everytime someone dies. Execution of phases 2-4 is paramount, if more than 2 people die, it's almost certainly a wipe. These strenuous healing and execution requirements just do not exist anywhere else in the game.
    now imagine if phase 3 wasn't cheesable! aka, in all other encounters in ID where there are turrets, you have to kill them at roughly the same time or they respawn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Durango View Post
    now imagine if phase 3 wasn't cheesable! aka, in all other encounters in ID where there are turrets, you have to kill them at roughly the same time or they respawn.
    I hadn't considered that. Does anyone know if they're intended to operate the way the other turrets do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Primalthirst View Post
    I hadn't considered that. Does anyone know if they're intended to operate the way the other turrets do?
    doubtful

    the other turrets (part of trash) are only used as a gate mechanic so I doubt there would be any reason to expect them to function the same way.

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