Voodoo Laethys stream up

[Kokie]

Terrible analogy as it in no way correlates to what you did or the boss at all. You overhealed as was stated by numerous other guilds. Your phase 1 was significantly longer than it could be. So you have no clue if you got it down to to somewhere around 25-50 that another phase/mechanic doesn't kick in. You continue to sit on your high horse and claim perfection without trying.

Please, link me some videos of these "numerous other guilds" who have reached 65% ....




I think there is one guild still around that might have reached it at this point.

[LOveRH]

Terrible analogy as it in no way correlates to what you did or the boss at all. You overhealed as was stated by numerous other guilds. Your phase 1 was significantly longer than it could be. So you have no clue if you got it down to to somewhere around 25-50 that another phase/mechanic doesn't kick in. You continue to sit on your high horse and claim perfection without trying.

.. You do know who are you talking to? These are Voodoo members who got world first on prenerf hard as **** bosses in HK. I think they know what they are talking about. Voodoo has said they tried stack more dps as well and other strats maxing out their dps but still having enough heals to survive. They look at the numbers all the time while your talking to them like they are idiots. x.x

If you been to phase 2 65% let me know because i don't know anyone who has gotten that far. Even hitting second phase makes the strongest guilds buckle at the moment. =/

[Rizaz]

Terrible analogy as it in no way correlates to what you did or the boss at all. You overhealed as was stated by numerous other guilds. Your phase 1 was significantly longer than it could be. So you have no clue if you got it down to to somewhere around 25-50 that another phase/mechanic doesn't kick in. You continue to sit on your high horse and claim perfection without trying.

Actually, it's a perfect analogy for the most plausible outcome: that the enrage timer is cumulative and there is no 50% mechanic. Could we be wrong? yeah, possibly, but there is no evidence (yet) to suggest that.

Only one guild, as far as I know, is anywhere close to where we were on the first day. We had perhaps one healer too many. "Numerous other guilds" also think you 2 tank the fight. That's because they haven't significantly worked on phase 2 to understand why 3 tanks are used. We easily cleared phase 1 in 3 add waves (the best that anyone is doing at the moment) but that comp gets wiped in phase 2. Phase 2 has a much higher energy drain requirement, tanking requirement, and AOE healing requirement than phase 1. And not only that, but on our "perfect" attempts we were clearing in 4 add waves. If you save a minute by doing it in 3 add waves, you're still, at max, hitting 50%

Realistically, I doubt any guild will hit 50% before the enrage until it is patched. Addiction is probably the only guild that has a shot and I'd love to see them hit it to see if there is another mechanic. I doubt it.

[dalthium]

.. You do know who are you talking to? These are Voodoo members who got world first on prenerf hard as **** bosses in HK. I think they know what they are talking about. Voodoo has said they tried stack more dps as well and other strats maxing out their dps but still having enough heals to survive. They look at the numbers all the time while your talking to them like they are idiots. x.x

If you been to phase 2 65% let me know because i don't know anyone who has gotten that far. Even hitting second phase makes the strongest guilds buckle at the moment. =/

They said they tried doing more dps but obviously never did it for an attempt they made it to the enrage, they do not know what/if there are mechanics on the boss beyond where they got it yet they continue to claim that it is impossible. With people such as yourself who just take their word as god even when they stipulate unless they missed something. It is disingenuous of them to make statements of impossibility when they didn't really put in the effort.

[LOveRH]

They said they tried doing more dps but obviously never did it for an attempt they made it to the enrage, they do not know what/if there are mechanics on the boss beyond where they got it yet they continue to claim that it is impossible. With people such as yourself who just take their word as god even when they stipulate unless they missed something. It is disingenuous of them to make statements of impossibility when they didn't really put in the effort.

Its not like guilds are raising their hands into the air quitting after voodoo said the boss might be impossible. They are still trying to get him down. Honestly no one has been close enough to reject their claim. If there is some weird phase change at 50% phase 2 well then Voodoo was wrong. So what?

But from their evidence (looking at the numbers), looking from their past boss experience and going the farthest then any other guild... Yes i would take their word for it. They were the most experience guild and players on rift. Unless you have more information about the fight and been that far please enlighten me.

[Sharpshooter]

I had so much saved up I didn't get to use, too!

I really wanted to use this one, but I figured it'd be a little much for some people. Just like how I don't like Skrllex'esque dubstep, I hate when people like it and think everyone else will. I know good "neutral" songs. ;P

Infected Mushroom ftw ;)

Like your choice of music in the videos.

[Anuhart]

Any NA streams this evening?
Clashing with PTS event I know, but with the new changes to Laethys and all, and EU (who have been streaming from a few guilds) won't get the update until tomorrow.

[AlienFromBeyond]

Any NA streams this evening?
Clashing with PTS event I know, but with the new changes to Laethys and all, and EU (who have been streaming from a few guilds) won't get the update until tomorrow.

The PTS event is tomorrow, not today.

[Anuhart]

You know, I knew that.

But for some reason I like didn't know that any more.

Thanks for slapping me back to reality.

[drsharp]

RIFT 1.8 Hotfix #8 - 8:00am PDT 5/16/12 [NA] - 1:00am GMT/2:00am BST 17/5/12 [EU]

INFERNAL DAWN
* Laethys:
- Increased Laethys' Enrage timer by 1 minute.
- Increased the timer for the Laethys Achievement, 'Gold Rush', from 8 minutes to 9 minutes.
- Slightly increased the time between minion spawns in the initial phase of the encounter.
- Greed's Wrath will deal substantially less damage when it ticks just after the target has taken damage from Golden Subjugation.
- Laethys no longer gains Energy while channeling Golden Destruction.
- Gilded Shrapnel can no longer be reflected.
* Maklamos the Scryer: Now with even more squashed bugs.

Really would've loved to see what Voodoo could've done with 1 extra minute last week. I haven't been exposed to the fight so have no idea how the other changes affect the difficulty.

Best of luck to everyone leaving and thank you for helping the community so much.

[Rizaz]

RIFT 1.8 Hotfix #8 - 8:00am PDT 5/16/12 [NA] - 1:00am GMT/2:00am BST 17/5/12 [EU]

INFERNAL DAWN
* Laethys:
- Increased Laethys' Enrage timer by 1 minute.
- Increased the timer for the Laethys Achievement, 'Gold Rush', from 8 minutes to 9 minutes.
- Slightly increased the time between minion spawns in the initial phase of the encounter.
- Greed's Wrath will deal substantially less damage when it ticks just after the target has taken damage from Golden Subjugation.
- Laethys no longer gains Energy while channeling Golden Destruction.
- Gilded Shrapnel can no longer be reflected.
* Maklamos the Scryer: Now with even more squashed bugs.

Really would've loved to see what Voodoo could've done with 1 extra minute last week. I haven't been exposed to the fight so have no idea how the other changes affect the difficulty.

Best of luck to everyone leaving and thank you for helping the community so much.

The biggest part isn't even the extra minute.

- Greed's Wrath (Laethys phase 2 auto attack) was previously auto attacking immediately after golden subjugation (fist slam, which does ~80% of your hp even if you dodge it) and instagibbing tanks. With these notes, we could have run 2 tanks again instead of 3 (+1 dps).

- Laethys no longer gains Energy while channeling Golden Destruction. This means we could have dropped a drainer (+1 dps) and possibly a healer (previously we had to heal two drainers through 5k/s aoe to drain energy during golden destruction), or healers would have had more dps time at the very least.

- As others have previously said, we definitely could have dropped 1 healer from our previous comp.

This is a total of probably 3-4 dps that we could have added over our comp that was enraging @65%. This a huge increase in dps, probably 50% (10-15k) if I had to guesstimate. That increase in dps from the better comp along with slightly slower add spawns means you can probably push laethys in phase 1 in 2 add waves (3 max) which will save another 1-2 minutes off our phase 1. You couldn't do that in the previous build because your comp would get wiped out in phase 2. Added to the other minute you get on the enrage timer, you're looking a fight that may now be possible. We'll have to see if Addiction can do it. ;)

TL;DR:
-Gained 50% dps
-Gained 2-3 minutes extra for phase 2
-Probably killable now.

[Akerling]

The biggest part isn't even the extra minute.

- Greed's Wrath (Laethys phase 2 auto attack) was previously auto attacking immediately after golden subjugation (fist slam, which does ~80% of your hp even if you dodge it) and instagibbing tanks. With these notes, we could have run 2 tanks again instead of 3 (+1 dps).

- Laethys no longer gains Energy while channeling Golden Destruction. This means we could have dropped a drainer (+1 dps) and possibly a healer (previously we had to heal two drainers through 5k/s aoe to drain energy during golden destruction), or healers would have had more dps time at the very least.

- As others have previously said, we definitely could have dropped 1 healer from our previous comp.

This is a total of probably 3-4 dps that we could have added over our comp that was enraging @65%. This a huge increase in dps, probably 50% (10-15k) if I had to guesstimate. That increase in dps from the better comp along with slightly slower add spawns means you can probably push laethys in phase 1 in 2 add waves (3 max) which will save another 1-2 minutes off our phase 1. You couldn't do that in the previous build because your comp would get wiped out in phase 2. Added to the other minute you get on the enrage timer, you're looking a fight that may now be possible. We'll have to see if Addiction can do it. ;)

TL;DR:
-Gained 50% dps
-Gained 2-3 minutes extra for phase 2
-Probably killable now.

It is killable.

[LOveRH]

It is killable.

Then go kill it!

[Ahov]

Its not like guilds are raising their hands into the air quitting after voodoo said the boss might be impossible. They are still trying to get him down. Honestly no one has been close enough to reject their claim. If there is some weird phase change at 50% phase 2 well then Voodoo was wrong. So what?

But from their evidence (looking at the numbers), looking from their past boss experience and going the farthest then any other guild... Yes i would take their word for it. They were the most experience guild and players on rift. Unless you have more information about the fight and been that far please enlighten me.

Is that what you think

[LOveRH]

Is that what you think

Is that what you think?