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    Quote Originally Posted by Valavus View Post
    Yeah..only RNG there is Heat Funnel. And that damn thing Wants.Me.Dead.

    Can't tell ya how many times it's changed direction 3 times in 2 seconds just to kill me.
    if you run straight in one direction without deviation you will outrun it ( we use clover/r-speed but even without u still can, theres insoles too )

    on the aky trip, im fine with the nerfbat wackin all up in there, lets more get throu it. grug will show up whos not payin attention and zilas will prolly show whos not hittin hard enough estrode will show out who dosnt have a clue dollin/inwar will smack peeps who cant co ordinate, sicaron etc are a lolfest, ....well its still fun and basic testers are still there
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    Silgen isn't a hard fight. Give all your ranged a number on their head, call out the anchors and funnels followed by the number of the person who is/will be affected by it. (Funnel on 4, Anchor on 7 etc). At least, that's what I do there. I get more wipes on high priest bigbird than on Silgen.

    Can't judge Akylios, as we've only had 10 mins on Inwar so far. I assume Akylios will still be challenging since we have nobody in the raid with any hands on experience, so all mechanics will be new. I hope that's the case though. Not particularly enjoying the nerfs, but hope there is some challenge in there.
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    Silgen is a joke, 1 shot him with half raid of newbie alts in T1 and blue gear and half decent HK geared, it's paying attention.
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    I am still laughing out loud on my side of the screen at all the people who say "Silgen is a joke" or "Akylios is a joke". These same people weren't saying the same things when they couldn't beat the encounters before. This includes people here, in my guild, and in server. I guarantee you the same thing will happen once the first few bosses of ID are beaten. You will have people struggling with it saying "it's a joke" or "just put a chest at the entrance". These people make me sick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intrinsc View Post
    I am still laughing out loud on my side of the screen at all the people who say "Silgen is a joke" or "Akylios is a joke". These same people weren't saying the same things when they couldn't beat the encounters before. This includes people here, in my guild, and in server. I guarantee you the same thing will happen once the first few bosses of ID are beaten. You will have people struggling with it saying "it's a joke" or "just put a chest at the entrance". These people make me sick.
    I know exactly what you're saying, but people are trying to compare apples to oranges here, with the way each of these encounters work, they're totally different and require different skills.

    Once people are 100% aware of mechanics and what's needed to beat encounters, everything is a joke. This applies to those who've done them, not up and coming raiders.

    Akylios will still be hard as a NEW encounter, same with Silgen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tumnayar View Post
    Akylios will still be hard as a NEW encounter, same with Silgen.
    Yup. Once anyone spends enough time practicing it becomes fairly easy for them.
    THOSE are the people that enjoy spotting off comments like "Aky is a joke"....

    that said, Silgen is indeed a pretty good raid awareness check via personal responsibility.
    We outted 2-3 people from being our core standby simply due to how often they die to the same mechanics over and over on Silgen. I think most people have issues not because of the avoidable mechanics, but because there is SO much going on, on their screen, it gets visually overwhelming to some people.

    The only major things is... sidestep Heat Funnel, run to anchor, run to priest... and occasionally avoid boss cleaves if the tank gets the anchor. Many bosses have this many mechanics, but few have this many to pay attention to all at once. That is where the check comes in. We noticed the same people that die over and over in our Silgen groups, end up rarely dying when i call out EVERY single mechanic in Teamspeak... "Heat Funnel! X person to anchor! Get to priest! Stay clear of cleaves!"

    i quite enjoy Silgen these days, the last boss has a few fun mechanics too, but a bit lengthy of a fight for no reason other than lots of HP (hmmm Estrode anyone?) lol. On that note, i still enjoy learning Aky phases, and im sure we will down him within a week or two now.

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    Why have the tank move when he/she has anchor? No need for unnecessary cleaves...
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    Who cares about whether it's easy or hard, it's not fun anymore. An encounter doesn't have to be difficult to be fun but an encounter where I can stand there and not really have to pay attention to anything isn't fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eclipze View Post
    Why have the tank move when he/she has anchor? No need for unnecessary cleaves...
    Yeah, it really doesn't hit the tank that hard at all. Well, at the reccommended gear levels, it does - but most people in this thread whining about him being easy are presumably rolling around in full relics anyway, so they should easily be able to stand there and take it.

    Silgen is also pretty unfriendly on melee - more chance of getting heat funnels on them the more you have, and causes disconnects and DPS loss - so the more ranged you have the easier he is.

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    Once you've seen the mechanics on akylios there is no reason to die to them.

    We killed him with our alt raid which was slightly under geared because we have seen the mechanics before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tumnayar View Post
    Silgen is a joke, 1 shot him with half raid of newbie alts in T1 and blue gear and half decent HK geared, it's paying attention.
    Silgen is a joke as far as mechanics go. It is all about paying attention. The DPS check however makes it more difficult and less forgiving.
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    SWTOR was the hardest progression block in the game, but thankfully it's awful and we have more people playing Rift now than before the galaxy far, far away exploded then imploded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fujitasix View Post
    SWTOR was the hardest progression block in the game, but thankfully it's awful and we have more people playing Rift now than before the galaxy far, far away exploded then imploded.

    (according to Hartsman's interview in this month's Game Informer)
    Especially if you were on Akylios right when it came out, that was a fun couple weeks ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebb View Post
    Silgen is a joke as far as mechanics go. It is all about paying attention. The DPS check however makes it more difficult and less forgiving.
    People have such little faith in healers or healers have little faith in themselves. Finally downed silgen the other day for the first time. Ran out of priests and healed through the final aoe like a champ.

    Silgen is definitely easier than Akylios. no debate needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archemys View Post
    People have such little faith in healers or healers have little faith in themselves. Finally downed silgen the other day for the first time. Ran out of priests and healed through the final aoe like a champ.

    Silgen is definitely easier than Akylios. no debate needed.
    It's just a different type of fight....mechanically Silgen is probably harder than Akylios now, or atleast less forgiving for people at the appropriate gear level. Akylios just has a larger learning curve since its a longer event but there is nothing mechnically difficult about it now.
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