51 RB useless?

[Vaelfear]

I love the RB tree and was wondering if it's viable to use a 51 RB build for DPSing Experts and 10 man content? I've been away from the game for a while and figured Id ask here for up to date advice.

Thx

[DemonRage]

I love the RB tree and was wondering if it's viable to use a 51 RB build for DPSing Experts and 10 man content? I've been away from the game for a while and figured Id ask here for up to date advice.

Thx

i still use 51 rb 15 para for experts/dh and gp. Not top dps but still fun and gets the job done.


BOEA also is really usefull when stuck with terribad clerics and chloros.

Just don't get one shot.

[intrinsc]

51RB Dual Wield is a lot of fun.

[DemonRage]

51RB Dual Wield is a lot of fun.

Been meaning to ask, whats your macros with it? also rift storm how often do you use it? wait for 3+ enemies or let it fly on CD like corned beef?

[Asteldian]

51rb 15 para is a good spec. Excellent for soloing and also viable dps in raids - it's not a chart topper but still high enough to use unless a harsh dps race. Depending on gear you can still be hitting upwards of 3k single target.

It is also useful for some fights - against prince and king in hk it allows you to hit king at range during cursed blows but also enables you to easily solo the forgotten stewards. Upstairs against inwar darktide the build with some PvP gear allows you to fight without a water resist sigil and with BOEA you don't put added pressure on the healer.

[TheGrinnz]

Been meaning to ask, whats your macros with it? also rift storm how often do you use it? wait for 3+ enemies or let it fly on CD like corned beef?

macros are:

builder

#show Rift Strike
suppressmacrofailures
cast Rift Strike
cast Frost Strike
cast Searing Strike
cast Path of the Wind
cast Flamespear

followup

#show Rising Waterfall
suppressmacrofailures
cast Rising Waterfall
cast Rift Strike
cast Frost Strike
cast Searing Strike
cast Path of the Raptor
cast Path of the Wind
cast Flamespear

(stuff after rising waterfall won't go off in melee unless you hit it without hitting a builder first)

finisher

#show Storm Burst
suppressmacrofailures
cast Storm Burst
cast Earth Burst
cast Fiery Burst
cast Icy Burst

and have Fiery Burst and Rift Storm separate. maintain the Fiery Burst dot (I don't do this because I'm lazy but it would improve your DPS) and use Rift Storm on cooldown, but make sure the Rift Strike buff is up first.

@above I would argue that using BoEA to not "put additional pressure on the healer" on that fight is just wasted, Storm Blade with the proper balance of endurance/resist gear will do more DPS. But it's an opinion matter.

[Methadras]

macros are:

builder

#show Rift Strike
suppressmacrofailures
cast Rift Strike
cast Frost Strike
cast Searing Strike
cast Path of the Wind
cast Flamespear

followup

#show Rising Waterfall
suppressmacrofailures
cast Rising Waterfall
cast Rift Strike
cast Frost Strike
cast Searing Strike
cast Path of the Raptor
cast Path of the Wind
cast Flamespear

(stuff after rising waterfall won't go off in melee unless you hit it without hitting a builder first)

finisher

#show Storm Burst
suppressmacrofailures
cast Storm Burst
cast Earth Burst
cast Fiery Burst
cast Icy Burst

and have Fiery Burst and Rift Storm separate. maintain the Fiery Burst dot (I don't do this because I'm lazy but it would improve your DPS) and use Rift Storm on cooldown, but make sure the Rift Strike buff is up first.

@above I would argue that using BoEA to not "put additional pressure on the healer" on that fight is just wasted, Storm Blade with the proper balance of endurance/resist gear will do more DPS. But it's an opinion matter.

Why do people still macro rising waterfall?

[TheGrinnz]

Why do people still macro rising waterfall?

Rising Waterfall will cause the same amount of lag whether at the beginning of a macro or un-macrod

[Tankalron]

I've found 51RB/15para to be very effective for hard mode conclave in ID. I use the build for any very melee unfriendly encounters.

[Tankalron]

Why do people still macro rising waterfall?

one reason is macro lag - some people say it exists and some people don't believe in it, I'm not about to pick a side.

another reason is with off-gcd finishers, follow-ups giving 2 attackpoints, and ranged follow-ups giving delayed 2nd attackpoints, it just makes managing the optimal rotation more fool-proof.

[dpser]

I love the RB tree and was wondering if it's viable to use a 51 RB build for DPSing Experts and 10 man content? I've been away from the game for a while and figured Id ask here for up to date advice.

Thx

I know you weren't referring to pvp, but 51RB/10VK/5RV is great fun in pvp. Can usually beat a 38RB/28CH 1v1 because of your survivablility.

[Asteldian]

Why do people still macro rising waterfall?

because you only use that macro when Rising Waterfall is available, so it should make no difference whether it is on its own or macro'd - except of course if you happen to be out of range, but at that point your DPS is suffering so the macro lag is the least of your problems

[TheGrinnz]

because you only use that macro when Rising Waterfall is available, so it should make no difference whether it is on its own or macro'd - except of course if you happen to be out of range, but at that point your DPS is suffering so the macro lag is the least of your problems

Yeah and if you really want to optimize ranged DPS you would put Path of the Raptor at the top of a second "ranged followup" macro. But ranged DPS is dependent entirely on when you get the second followup point from PotR hitting the target so you're going to get more lag from that than the macro.

[Fleetness]

If you are lazy like me, you can get away with using just the follow up macro. You tap it twice really quickly, then wait 1/2 a GCD for the third sword and hit a finisher. Slightly less DPS and you occasionally waste an attack point by hitting a followup for 2 swords when you are already at two swords, but once you get the slight pause timing down, it really isn't that bad a DPS loss. You can put earthspear at the bottom of the macro as well.

[Vydar]

I pulled 3600 on Ituziel with it our last kill... I wouldn't say useless, just not as ideal as other specs. I like it on Ituziel so I can focus more on dodging waves, have the damage mit for Rain of Fire, and have fewer disconnects that way.