Do not nerf rift storm. People are learning how to play against it

[Izualy]

Trion c'mon now you devs obviously don't pvp.

If you nerf riftstorm you are going to make a mistake. and it's sad because its evident you listen to dat ranged kiter community that you serve.

It's pretty obvious to me that oppenents versing a warrior using riftstorm are learning to evade it more and more.
You are really gona nerf something that most classes have the tools to avoid??????? Wake up.

the cowardry is beyond me in this community. Makes me a little bit sick when ranged classes can do more damage in a shorter amount of time then rift strom from a safe obscure location.
Wake up trion. wf's are already mostly ranged attacks.

[Mei]

Trion c'mon now you devs obviously don't pvp.

Okay, I can agree with this.

If you nerf riftstorm you are going to make a mistake

How so?

It's pretty obvious to me that oppenents versing a warrior using riftstorm are learning to evade it more and more.

Evidence?

[Izualy]

Okay, I can agree with this.



How so?



Evidence?

I'll try and make a video next time so you can be shown what you already know. Unles you are blind.

So you can't **** shovel anymore. trion already serves your class. some audacity to ask for proof you should be able to see the evident instead of perpetuating a nerf that you and i know will leave a fun cool skill useless like it was before.

[Pett]

I've said plenty of times i have no problem with Rift Storm as it is. Sure it hurts if you stand in it... but theres your clue how to counter it Sure they can rift walk back in but if you knock them back or port away you already halved the damage it puts out. No nerf needed.

The problem with warriors, if anything, is the cheesy planar blade / rift walk combo. Any warrior that uses this dont you dare ever complain about being chain squirrelled ever again. Im sure someone will trot out the line about range and blah blah blah but it needs an ICD.

And no, i dont play a warrior.

[Marduk]

Okay, I can agree with this.



How so?



Evidence?

If you are seriously having issues with riftstorm then I am going to make fun of you endlessly.

The only time riftstorm should suck for you is if you get CC'd and are forced to eat all the ticks. It's so easy to get away from, it's stupid. Yeah, the warrior can riftwalk to you most likely. By the time that happens though, you've eluded most of the damage.

[Steelwind]

Squirrel and insta Fireball is worse.

[efitall]

I don't play warrior.

I agree that Riftstorm does not need to be nerfed - it's fine, people just have to pay attention and get out of the AoE (just like they do for mages and clerics).

Removing the threat of riftstorm would make PvP less challenging (ie: more boring).

I would, however, like to see more consistent DR on the leap/stun abilities Warriors have.

[Scarchasm]

I don't play warrior.

I agree that Riftstorm does not need to be nerfed - it's fine, people just have to pay attention and get out of the AoE (just like they do for mages and clerics).

Removing the threat of riftstorm would make PvP less challenging (ie: more boring).

I would, however, like to see more consistent DR on the leap/stun abilities Warriors have.

the stun component was supposed to have been removed from thunderous leap bc it was making everyone nearby immune to status effects and detrimental to use
might be confusing it with bull rush which stuns up to 3 seconds when talented and has a similar animation

[nemecis]

the stun component was supposed to have been removed from thunderous leap bc it was making everyone nearby immune to status effects and detrimental to use
might be confusing it with bull rush which stuns up to 3 seconds when talented and has a similar animation

TL only interrupts, hasn't stunned since the PvP soul was removed.
Bull Rush doesn't look anything like TL, in facy TL looks like one of the Riftstalker jumps or the Bahmi jump, not like a charge.

[nemecis]

I don't play warrior.

I agree that Riftstorm does not need to be nerfed - it's fine, people just have to pay attention and get out of the AoE (just like they do for mages and clerics).

Removing the threat of riftstorm would make PvP less challenging (ie: more boring).

I would, however, like to see more consistent DR on the leap/stun abilities Warriors have.

DR is perfectly consistent on all these abilities. Outside of AoE fear, the duration on all of our CC options is so nominal that it barely deserves mention. Polymorph, Rift Prison, Fears (Mage and Cleric ones too), mezz/stuns (from other classes) all have longer durations --- and are affected by DR.

Consistency? It's not like some abilities are less affected while others are moreso. The only form of CC not subject to DR afaik are punts/summons.

[Scarchasm]

TL only interrupts, hasn't stunned since the PvP soul was removed.
Bull Rush doesn't look anything like TL, in facy TL looks like one of the Riftstalker jumps or the Bahmi jump, not like a charge.

i agree. and it feels different to use and is played differently, too. but thunderous leap doesn't have the same vertical arc on it that a bahmi/high elf leap does and ends with an attack. since he doesn't play a warrior and all he really sees is a warrior moving towards him faster than he can move away followed by an attack, i could see TL and BR being confused with eachother. fairly sure that bullrush is what's stunning him.. and bullrush only stuns in deep champ builds or if you allocate points to train it, making it seem inconsistent

[utterchaos]

Or they can over nerf it, i mean fix it like they did devouring shadows...

You have to target and drop it on the ground. 1.5 second global to recast. You can walk out of it. All they needed to do was fix the stop cast exploit. Now it just tickles and is pretty useless.

Warriors/rogues were the biggest complainers about it.

[fitness]

I remember 3 months ago all classes cept clerics were telling us clerics that nerf is a good thing. What has changed since?

[Mei]

If you are seriously having issues with riftstorm then I am going to make fun of you endlessly.

The only time riftstorm should suck for you is if you get CC'd and are forced to eat all the ticks. It's so easy to get away from, it's stupid. Yeah, the warrior can riftwalk to you most likely. By the time that happens though, you've eluded most of the damage.

Oh, I'm not. His argument just has no base and I felt a need to question his post. :P

[nemecis]

I remember 3 months ago all classes cept clerics were telling us clerics that nerf is a good thing. What has changed since?

Nothing, clerics still need nerfts, now troll elsewhere.