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    Default New warrior soul

    I would suggest making the following changes in addition to adding a new soul:

    1). Retool rift blade to have solid ranged dps. Change the cooldown on flamespear to instant again. Keep rift storm melee based. Make the damage increase for rift blade to plus 3% melee and plus 3% ranged dps. Redesign rift strike to be ranged dps like a spear on the same cooldown timer. Keep the other abilities melee only. The idea is a ranged dps option that still required melee for max dps. This spec would be used in fights with many disconnects. Also, increase the damage of rift storm. So warriors would get strong ranged dos that would require melee to maximize.

    2). Increase paragon single target dps. Keep AOE for the soul at its present dismal level. Due yo the fact paragon is so limited to single target the soul needs a bump in this department. The other option is to increase it's AOE. The bottom line.. It makes no sense for a duel wield single target dps soul to not have the highest single target. Paragon needs a buff.

    3). For the new soul add a melee based healer. Heals are correlated to damage done. Like an awesome death knight healing toon.

    4). Add more support to warlord. Including abilities that heal the raid. Like bard.

    The premise that warriors cannot have a heal soul is short sighted and foolish. Considering the multiple roles that can be fulfilled by other classes. Give warriors a heal soul.

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    I'd also recommend putting Fiery Burst back to 2 points and keep Icy Burst also as a 2 point option, but have to choose one or the other. Then that would allow for a 26 points in champ spec that would include Bladefury at least.

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    May I suggest a new soul? Vampiric Knight. Converts damage to heals, like Chloromancer. Can serve as as a healer.

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    I think they should make a ranged dps/tank class for the warrior. Warriors HAVE a ranged weapon (Bow, Rifle), make a soul that utilizes this and is intent on buildind ranged aggro with this weapon to draw in and controls enemy mobs. I'd call it the "Jannisary" or "Musketeer" class...

    Either that or a class that uses slight magic to take on the Aspect of a "Werebeast". Dps takes on form of Werewolf, Tank takes on aspect of Werebear, etc... Call this class the "Lycanthropist" soul

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redcrosse View Post
    Either that or a class that uses slight magic to take on the Aspect of a "Werebeast". Dps takes on form of Werewolf, Tank takes on aspect of Werebear, etc... Call this class the "Lycanthropist" soul
    A great idea, but I would use it for mages. Maybe a werepig, since rogues already use a piggy for their tanking pet.

    I think, to reduce QQ, Trion should give mages a tank soul, clerics - a support soul, warriors and rogues - a healing soul.

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    A Berzerker will be cool. Where you lose health for dps buffs. Would synergy very nicely with Reaver for solo builds, getting away from Riftblade. Should compete with top dps in raids.
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    Some very cool ideas in here guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrius View Post
    Some very cool ideas in here guys.
    Atrius, is this really you??? =)

    How about a teaser on what our new soul will be? I bet one of us got it right. Or else you wouldn't respond.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mekenna View Post
    3). For the new soul add a melee based healer. Heals are correlated to damage done. Like an awesome death knight healing toon.
    Any new role (support/healing) needs to be paired with/worked into a ranged role too. Without doing so, the warrior almost certainly becomes inferior to those who can heal/buff without suffering melee disconnects.
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    There are really only two useful options for a new warrior soul:

    1) Pure ranged DPS -- Raid viable ranged DPS, ie the original spear chucking riftblade.

    2) A healer -- Would significantly improve warrior versatility. A proper hybrid could fulfill the role of an *icar, which is currently the most unique healing build in the game. Good DPS with high burst HPS. This would greatly expand warrior solo builds by allowing some self-healing with low point investment.

    What we DON'T need:

    Another tank soul -- The current 4 souls already suffer from lack of uniqueness.

    Another melee DPS soul -- Got plenty of these already too.

    A "support" soul -- There really isn't much raid room for a 3rd non-healer support class. You'd likely either wind up duplicating bard/archon functionality, while sacrificing another DPS slot in raids.
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    How about we try something truly new to rift, and not copying range dps, or icar support, or chloro healing, and give warriors something completely unique, useful, and gives players with true situation awareness a place to shine?

    What if you could do something that did't have to worry about stacking with or overwriting another buff? Lets call it a bannerman/captain/herald or something along those lines for this thread. The premise of the soul would be to drop banners on the battlefield, with various ranges and duration and would have situation appropriateness. Think about a banner with a 10sec duration that applied to all within 10 meter radius that reduced incoming aoe damage by 75% and prevented knockbacks - perhaps if you had one of these in your raid you would no longer have to worry about disconnects as much, instead of having every warrior swapping to a ranged dps build. Or how about another banner that decreases casting time by 20% for a short time for our caster friends? Increase critical hit magnitude? Heal over time while within radius? Monster debuffs or damage over time effects as well? You could have longer lasting banners with weaker effects, and short duration banners with some powerful effects, but a good player could keep themselves busy bolstering the raid and causing havoc on the enemies.

    All I want is to have something that is unique to warriors, can be enjoyable to play and is wanted in a raid/group. If you copy a soul of another class you can be sure that someone is going to do it better and there will be QQ and nerf-wars to follow.

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    Daglar has been quoted saying that Trion has no plans whatsoever for Warriors to receive a healing soul so I'm very confident that the new Warrior soul will either be a ranged DPS option or a support soul (perhaps the combination of both).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synovia View Post
    Daglar has been quoted saying that Trion has no plans whatsoever for Warriors to receive a healing soul so I'm very confident that the new Warrior soul will either be a ranged DPS option or a support soul (perhaps the combination of both).
    There is no such thing as a dps support soul. It's pretty clear that you are either support, or dps.

    I don't see archons pulling 4k ST


    I'd love to see a SnB DPS class, but as others said we don't need another melee dps. Maybe this is a nice way to change warlord - with stances like the meins and phases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebb View Post
    There is no such thing as a dps support soul. It's pretty clear that you are either support, or dps.

    I don't see archons pulling 4k ST
    A good archon can pull at least half that. That's half a DPS while still bringing their raid buffs, I'd call that support dps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlienFromBeyond View Post
    A good archon can pull at least half that. That's half a DPS while still bringing their raid buffs, I'd call that support dps.
    It's not the same as a range dps soul though - which we need.
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