I am a Void Knight...

[Bloodbourne]

...but damnit I want a way to "unleash" my pacts... FFS Discharge is not enough. Give me something MOAR! ATM pacts are sooo trivial. Give me something so I can micro manage and know when to unleash, and when to stay at 10

Drop all 10 pacts to consume 100 mana per pact from target, dealing 50% of mana drained as fire damage.

Drop 1 pact for each enemy hit, up to ten, dealing weapon + x air dmg to each target.

Something

"Spells that would bring another Warrior low are shaken off by a Void Knight, reflected back at the caster, or stored in pacts the Void Knight can unleash to devastating effect."

Efficient Conversion
Abilities that unleash Pacts cost 15 less Power.

^^Might as well change that to Dischare cost 15 less power -.-

Please add something

[Trisian]

Because warriors need more magic damage. No.

[Thargrom]

Because warriors need more magic damage. No.

Because warriors have ONE soul with magic damage...

All of the synergy between RB and any other magic attacks outside of that soul have been nerfed into non-existence:

Reaver - Dots are a joke (the initial hit of Blood Fever was completely nerfed with 1.8) and only good for spreading lingering wounds at range (lol), and if you go high enough for Cyclone strike, you're not doing any damage in pvp with the opportunity cost of spending that many points in a tank soul.

Paladin - The only life-damage worth anything in Pally was from Sweeping Strikes (doesn't do life damage any more)

VK - Ragestorm and Discharge are air damage, but these come from the tank soul that Bloodbourne is talking about. They hit like wet noodles, and barely take advantage of riftblade's buffs now. Tempest is another high-point-investment attack that will hurt overall damage significantly if you invest that high in the tank soul.

That's it... notice that all of those non-RB non-physical attacks take investment in tank souls (and therefore neuter the overall dps of the warrior). So, yes... watch out for all of that magic damage that those warriors are throwing around in pvp.

I find it hard to take any post of your seriously, Trisian... after your thread about riftblade spears showed absolutely zero understanding of warrior souls or playstyle.

[Sebb]

Eh, the concept of RS and RD makes using pacts pretty counterproductive. I should say RD, as RS is pretty useless for tanking.

[Bloodbourne]

Because warriors have ONE soul with magic damage...

All of the synergy between RB and any other magic attacks outside of that soul have been nerfed into non-existence:

Reaver - Dots are a joke (the initial hit of Blood Fever was completely nerfed with 1.8) and only good for spreading lingering wounds at range (lol), and if you go high enough for Cyclone strike, you're not doing any damage in pvp with the opportunity cost of spending that many points in a tank soul.

Paladin - The only life-damage worth anything in Pally was from Sweeping Strikes (doesn't do life damage any more)

VK - Ragestorm and Discharge are air damage, but these come from the tank soul that Bloodbourne is talking about. They hit like wet noodles, and barely take advantage of riftblade's buffs now. Tempest is another high-point-investment attack that will hurt overall damage significantly if you invest that high in the tank soul.

That's it... notice that all of those non-RB non-physical attacks take investment in tank souls (and therefore neuter the overall dps of the warrior). So, yes... watch out for all of that magic damage that those warriors are throwing around in pvp.

I find it hard to take any post of your seriously, Trisian... after your thread about riftblade spears showed absolutely zero understanding of warrior souls or playstyle.

Tempest hits 10 targets, crits for roughly 1800x10 >.> Ragestorm hits for less, and less targets. These are the only viable non-physical AoE attacks we get. Blood Fever is still decent on 6+ targets, but for ST, RB attacks are really all you have.

As for the pt investment, I don't mind putting pts into a tank soul for PvP. Passive mitigation and HP? >.> Why not? and to get the two hardest hitting non-physical AoE's? It's not really a tough decision.

Still want my abilities that consume pacts though -.-

[Thargrom]

Tempest hits 10 targets, crits for roughly 1800x10 >.> Ragestorm hits for less, and less targets. These are the only viable non-physical AoE attacks we get. Blood Fever is still decent on 6+ targets, but for ST, RB attacks are really all you have.

As for the pt investment, I don't mind putting pts into a tank soul for PvP. Passive mitigation and HP? >.> Why not? and to get the two hardest hitting non-physical AoE's? It's not really a tough decision.

Still want my abilities that consume pacts though -.-

I agree with you that they're worthwhile attacks, just saying that they're not nearly as effective as they could be (and have little chance of being overpowered) due to the lack of damage bonus from losing 16-26-38 pts (typical investments in VK) in dps souls.

There are definite survival benefits from mixing mid-high VK with RB... it is just a lot of potential damage lost... that no other callings have to deal with (since they can have their defensive cooldowns/buffs without losing 80-160% additive damage bonuses... some, like Riftstalker even give direct dps boosts)

As a pvp warrior, we are forced to mix survivability with our dps, and to do that requires the use of our tank souls that have very little synergy with our dps ones.

Some more VK love would be great, and I agree with your original post 100%. If RB and VK are going to be the pillars of warrior pvp (as they have been since launch), VK needs a little love.

[Thargrom]

Eh, the concept of RS and RD makes using pacts pretty counterproductive. I should say RD, as RS is pretty useless for tanking.

In PvP, this isn't too much of an issue... and makes sense... after unleashing a heavy aoe, the VK is a little weaker, it only takes about 2 gcd's to get back up to 10 pacts... and even less time if you're being attacked at all (since 80% of the damage flying around is magic).

[Trisian]

Because warriors have ONE soul with magic damage...

I stopped reading here due to inaccuracy and idiocy.

[Thargrom]

I stopped reading here due to inaccuracy and idiocy.

Your lack of understanding of the warrior class is astounding, just astounding

[madroxz]

Your lack of understanding of the warrior class is astounding, just astounding

He is a cleric what did you expect?