Cornered Beast

[Waseem2k]

I know warriors are loving this ability, whats annoying is when they pop it off the bat and get themselves killed with all the aggro this ability generates. I'm not asking for a nerf to the ability, i would like the threat reduced on it. It does not matter what kind of Tank is running, if a warrior hits the ability right away, he's going to die and we have to waste a battle rez just for that.

Either reduce the threat on the ability or increase the overall threat for all tank classes in game to keep up with abilities like this.

[Talking The Hardest]

It does not matter what kind of Tank is running, if a warrior hits the ability right away, he's going to die and we have to waste a battle rez just for that.

How about not using the ability right away? It's like a mage popping heatwave straight away, unless they're intercepted of course they are going to pull aggro...

[Moihan]

It does not matter what kind of Tank is running, if a warrior hits the ability right away, he's going to die and we have to waste a battle rez just for that.

Tell your warrior to wait a few seconds.

[Waseem2k]

There's a huge difference between heatwave and cornered beast. No mage is stupid enough to be standing in melee for starters and they wont be using it on a group of mobs, If aggro is lost on a single mob due to heatwave you have plenty of time to taunt it back. With cornered beast, the mob will simply turn and gib the warrior.

There is no harm in reducing the threat generated by the ability.

[Acanis]

There's a huge difference between heatwave and cornered beast. No mage is stupid enough to be standing in melee for starters and they wont be using it on a group of mobs, If aggro is lost on a single mob due to heatwave you have plenty of time to taunt it back. With cornered beast, the mob will simply turn and gib the warrior.

There is no harm in reducing the threat generated by the ability.

Wait 3-4 seconds then pop it, or do tearing first. Cornered is always the first or second finisher I hit on any boss pull and I've NEVER taken threat from a tank. But then again I also don't start blowing the boss up immediately unless i'm the intercept target. Only time cornered beast gets me killed is if i pop it early on an aoe trash pack.

[Silver Thorn]

Being a warrior who uses this ability myself, if the warrior is stupid enough to not be able to manage their own threat then they deserve to die...enough said.

[jigser]

I really dont know why your said warrior pop it 1st
Should always be 2nd on finisher behind BF if on aoe and TS if its st fight
If you wait you have a chance to proc golem (trinket)

Cornered beast is nice ability but it will hit harder with golem procs even if its 1 stack of gi

[Waseem2k]

It's not just the one warrior. Think of it like this, you enter a t2 group, you're mass pulling to keep it moving. Warrior is going to pop it at some point, soon as he pops, mobs go right to him. Whats he to do in that situation?

I have tanked with clerics that pop Tyranny off the bat, Sabs that don't incriminate. They are not as bad as warriors with cornered beast. Its a simple fix, rogues get stalker phase, something like that would help a lot and we won't lose dps.

[MiO]

Lol, you get outta here.

[smoked]

There is no harm in reducing the threat generated by the ability.

Sure there is, tanks need to learn to tank better and DPS needs to learn to not be full of derpy downs

I really dont know why your said warrior pop it 1st
Should always be 2nd on finisher behind BF if on aoe and TS if its st fight
If you wait you have a chance to proc golem (trinket)

Cornered beast is nice ability but it will hit harder with golem procs even if its 1 stack of gi

LOL @ using TS on ST or AOE

[mistacrowley420]

Sure there is, tanks need to learn to tank better and DPS needs to learn to not be full of derpy downs



LOL @ using TS on ST or AOE

You don't use tearing slash?

[Ajax1114]

There's a huge difference between heatwave and cornered beast. No mage is stupid enough to be standing in melee for starters and they wont be using it on a group of mobs, If aggro is lost on a single mob due to heatwave you have plenty of time to taunt it back. With cornered beast, the mob will simply turn and gib the warrior.

There is no harm in reducing the threat generated by the ability.

Not really harm in doing so, but it is, arguably, a bit silly and counter-intuitive to the way abilities are intended to function. Opening with cornered beast is as silly as opening with heatwave. You could try intercepting the warrior, just as some warrior tanks use intercept on heatwave popping mages.

If it's a t2 and you're chain pulling, you're almost guaranteed to lose a mob or two anyway, no matter what DPS classes are involved. There is a certain point where DPS should just be playing intelligently. I mean, I know if I'm a warrior and the tank is chain pulling, I'm not going to be spamming every cooldown I've got and trying to time those cooldowns for when the tank reaches a new group..

In other words, if the scenario is chaotic and full of chain-pulling, you can make an argument for losing aggro on pretty much any ability in the game. If the situation is at all controlled and you're communicating with other players, they should not be pulling off of you with Cornered Beast.

[Zahne]

The skill is fine. This game is easymode enough without guaranteeing there's zero chance for DPS to pull hate off a tank.

Tell your Warriors to smarten up a bit.

[lameboi]

if you don't use TS st you're doin somethin wrong :P

[intrinsc]

Using CB on a fresh pull is as smart as using Sign Of Asias and Tyranny spam on a fresh pull as Cabalist. Tell your DPS to stop being dumb.