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    Firstly, why the nerf to slayers? While thats not a huge hit to pve specs, it definately will hurt us in pvp limiting our already poor burst. And with these changes bm is very likely going to be the top dps spec.... ugh I feel 1.0-1.2 coming back I HATE bm with a passion. Deep rb still needs some love, and deadly grace probably could use a retool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlienFromBeyond View Post
    So deep Riftblade is still useless for DPS then I see. I doubt the 4 piece bonus is worth using still, and the 2 piece bonus is still anemic.

    Slayer's will still be better than Soldier's because of the huge amount of additive damage bonus we already have, but it does mean Destroyer's should be better than it now.

    Weapon Master better have 100% proc rate else Paragon gets really screwed by RNG in a not fun way.

    Beastmaster could potentially become OP with the Primal Rage change, there can be a LOT of bleeds on a target in raid situations, and it's finally getting a passive damage talent on top of that.

    EDIT: I'm actually DLing a PTS patch this very moment, perhaps these changes are already up? Don't know if the PTS server is unlocked though...
    Not sure what the latest PTS patch changed, but the latest post from Atrius was not included in it. Guess we'll have to wait to test.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrius View Post
    Some new changes coming up soon.

    Beastmaster
    • Primal Rage now has a cooldown of 15 seconds and a duration of 5/10/15 seconds.
    • Effects that increase the damage of Bleeds no longer affect the first hit of Flesh Rip, Tearing Slash, Slashing Strike, and Feral Sweep.
    • Survival of the Fittest has changed. It now increases Beastmaster and Pet damage based on points spent in the Beastmaster Soul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrius View Post
    Titan's Strike no longer has a Stun, it now has a cooldown of 15 seconds, and is now affected by Rift Fury, Teaching of the Five Rings, and Weapon Specialization.
    Are you sure about this? I could have sworn it was already affected by these. While you're at it, if it has no stun now could you remove the PvP penalty on it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jerwel View Post
    Firstly, why the nerf to slayers? While thats not a huge hit to pve specs, it definately will hurt us in pvp limiting our already poor burst. And with these changes bm is very likely going to be the top dps spec.... ugh I feel 1.0-1.2 coming back I HATE bm with a passion. Deep rb still needs some love, and deadly grace probably could use a retool.
    51 champ or high paragon if ur gonna want burst with the enhanced burst and slayers nerfs, and lol @ how fast u die without a pocket healer in those specs.

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    weaponmaster affecting only follow up attacks is a bad change. its removing much needed synergy between souls (paragon used to work with literally every soul - even tanks loved using their wotm specs for akylios, in part because they also had 50% more attack points to play with)
    in addition, though probably more importantly, it simplifies rotations. Even a rotation macroed to two buttons (builders and finishers) would require impeccable timing to shoot off finishers and not waste attk points with WM in the mix. that removed from many soul combinations, the best specs will be discovered and he who pushes buttons fastest will hit the hardest

    i strongly feel you should reconsider this change and work towards balancing abilities around that being an option. or at least put fleet of foot a lot lower in paragon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackblade View Post
    Any dummy raid parses to illustrate this? If we are beating mages / rogues by a wide margin, then yes it is OP as all 3 classes should be competitive against each other.

    If it is because of a DW vs 2H comparison, then it becomes an opinion issue. Why we are arguing internally against our own spec is beyond me. Do you ever see Rogues arguing that MM specs should be top because they are the only calling that can use Relic bow / guns?
    I believe the rogues are actually arguing to have their other specs to be brought up to MM dps level.

    While we're here fighting to keep 2H speccs specifically on top... and everyone else at or below there
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    Oh good grief, I guess I'm not going to PTS this week with that much flux.
    Maybe end of next week.

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    The end result will give Weapon Master 100% chance off Follow Up attacks. However, the newest push to PTS will have it at 50%. The following patch should have it at 100%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrius View Post
    The end result will give Weapon Master 100% chance off Follow Up attacks. However, the newest push to PTS will have it at 50%. The following patch should have it at 100%.
    mhmmmmmmmmmmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrius View Post
    The end result will give Weapon Master 100% chance off Follow Up attacks. However, the newest push to PTS will have it at 50%. The following patch should have it at 100%.
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    Is this going to hit live today so we have the weekend to play with it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrius View Post
    The end result will give Weapon Master 100% chance off Follow Up attacks. However, the newest push to PTS will have it at 50%. The following patch should have it at 100%.
    With this being said It will make it even more fun to play 44/22/0. Thanks for the clarification, atrius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wraithh View Post
    Is this going to hit live today so we have the weekend to play with it?
    I'm doubting it, looks like a push has gone out today, but not with these changes.

    Anyways, if this works how I think it might, Titan's strike could very well be the viable on-gcd finisher we have been waiting for.

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    Is riftwalk still on the GCD?
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