AP Scaling and other DPS changes to the Warrior going up to PTS

[Pipedreams]

Here is the breakdown for anyone that cares.

http://i.imgur.com/oT208.png

If there are any guardians that have bis gear that want to test dw next time we do raid buffed parses shoot me a pm. I don't know the rotation nor the spec and I'm not all to nerded up on DW so I haven't done more than ~10 min of parsing with it myself. Would be nice to see where it stands though.

It scales much better than 51ch with raid buffs, about 200-300 dps higher in my testing.

[Duillory]

Correct, i never said that it is worthless. And not sure why you bring that up since it was a post SPECIFICALLY about the best AP gains per gear, no discussion about Crit was involved. :P

The problem is stat weighting. Once you hit crit cap the amount of stats you have to stack to get any progress beyond soft cap is exponentially greater the higher you go.
Meaning the more you concentrate on stacking past the soft cap, the less return on investment you get...

The full plate gear SET from hammerknell + BiS crit sigil and HK weapons put you at crit cap. Once we start walking into ID and getting drops, no doubt gear will continue to push past soft cap. This will be a natural affect of gear progression and therefore does not need to be purposely focused/stacked anymore. AP stacking will be the best return on investment as your natural crit will rise along the way.

My point? Plate gear is will become more valuable as ever to HK and beyond players. Leather usage specifically for crit stacking will only be viable in lower tier gear levels and situations where our crit rating drops heavily due to necessary gear swaps (water sigil).

Another glaring error is that some of or BiS essences are not crit so those are the most desirable to replace first. 3-4 leather pieces are still our BiS end game.

[Sebb]

This was self buffed, but doubt it would scale over 51 champ considering it gets consistent 3 ap(super ap gain) finishers. Next round of warrior changes that go through I'll give it another try.

*edit* the 38/16/12's ib actually crit for 2757, while 51 champ crit for 2747. So those did slightly more damage.

That's interesting. Between slayers + FOW vs Destroyer's, I'd expect the 38/16/12 crits to be higher.

[paper]

It scales much better than 51ch with raid buffs, about 200-300 dps higher in my testing.

38/26/6 or 39/26/5?

[Sebb]

38/26/6 or 39/26/5?

That's a lot of points you got there.

[paper]

That's a lot of points you got there.

Evidently that is what I need to do good dps with dw. :/

38/22/6 or 38/23/5 would be the better breakdowns. :/

[intrinsc]

38/22/6 is goooood.

[Steelwind]

Here is the breakdown for anyone that cares.

http://i.imgur.com/oT208.png

If there are any guardians that have bis gear that want to test dw next time we do raid buffed parses shoot me a pm. I don't know the rotation nor the spec and I'm not all to nerded up on DW so I haven't done more than ~10 min of parsing with it myself. Would be nice to see where it stands though.

Why do you have 83 Searing Strike hits when Fierce Strike should be your main builder? If you had 83 more Fierce Strikes instead of 83 Searing Strikes your dps should be tops. Also which synergy crystal are you using? BM?

Fierce Strike max hit 4390
Searing Strike max hit 1016

[paper]

Why do you have 83 Searing Strike hits when Fierce Strike should be your main builder? If you had 83 more Fierce Strikes instead of 83 Searing Strikes your dps should be tops. Also which synergy crystal are you using? BM?

Fierce Strike max hit 4390
Searing Strike max hit 1016

Because that is what ACT labels the talented Icy Burst damage. And yes, using the BM crystal.

[paper]

Also will try to figure out the DW build / rotation and post those parses once I get a chance, unless someone else already has them to save me the time!

[Steelwind]

Because that is what ACT labels the talented Icy Burst damage. And yes, using the BM crystal.

O that's right. Forgot about that bug on PTS. Thank you.

[Sebb]

Also will try to figure out the DW build / rotation and post those parses once I get a chance, unless someone else already has them to save me the time!

I believe it's:

SLI->DS/RW->FB->DS/RW->IB->DS/RW->IB->DS/RW->

Some debate on if RW is worth it over DS spam though.
Use the same tricks to try and force 3 CPs. You're also no longer slaved to FS timing so you have more control over wm procs.

[Steelwind]

Because that is what ACT labels the talented Icy Burst damage. And yes, using the BM crystal.

It looks like you are doing 2 point Icy Bursts with this rotation...

Disruptive Strike, Fiery Burst
Fierce Strike, Icy Burst
Fierce Strike, Icy Burst
Fierce Strike, Icy Burst
Disruptive Strike, Fiery Burst

Am I correct?

[paper]

So right now the highest DW rotation I have found, at least self buffed is:

1) Keep 3point SLI up(duh).

2) If first dual strike gives a wm proc then;

ds - ds - sb - ds - rw - rh - ds - ds

3) If it doesn't then;

ds - ds - ogcd finisher - ds - ds - ogcd finisher - ds - ds - o gcd finisher - ds - ds.

Try to use fb when you have 3ap and it isn't already up, use ib otherwise. For me a full duration fb was doing more damage than ib.

This was parsing between 2900 and 3050 for me self buffed + ferver on the dummy. If someone could point out to me whether I'm in the right direction or not I'd appreciate it. This was with relic sword / pvp sword and full sword +weapon dps pa, but otherwise is 100 pa levels lower than my most recent copy character.

For reference with 51/15/0 I am parsing ~3200-3300 on the dummy, self buffed + ferver, but as I said has around 100 pa levels more than the dw. Should probably just delete my PAs and retest, ugh.

[paper]

It looks like you are doing 2 point Icy Bursts with this rotation...

Disruptive Strike, Fiery Burst
Fierce Strike, Icy Burst
Fierce Strike, Icy Burst
Fierce Strike, Icy Burst
Disruptive Strike, Fiery Burst

Am I correct?

fb - disruptive - ib - fs - fs - ib - fs - fs -ib - fs - fs - fb. Every finisher uses 3 ap.

FB lasts 10 seconds, and that is the cd for disruptive so you need a 7 gcd rotation.