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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiika View Post
    What category do you fall in A or B?? just curious. But id say the ones who want to see the rw spec die are bads and just want specs where you spam spam spam spam than finisher. The rw spec was the only spec to differentiate the good wars from the bads. As of right now on the pts our highest hitting build is a spam one and the bads are loving it. If anything id rather see the aoe in the spec get toned down and just leave the st damage as is. I do not want a brainless spam spec, i want to know which wars im raiding with are legit and which isnt
    This is no longer the case as of Patch Set 2 (43 RB / 23 CH is no longer top due to Enhanced Burst changes).

    The highest ST PTS builds for 2H is 40 CH / 26 BM and for DW is 44 PA / 22 CH. Neither of these are spam specs. For the former, you have to keep up and monitor your bleeds every 10 secs. For the latter, this is similar to how RW spec would play.

    Even 51 Champ is potentially quite competitive. I parse 2.9k using a 60.6 DPS weapon. And this is not a 2 button spec either.

    Overall the changes are a step in the right direction. There would be many viable builds going forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiika View Post
    What category do you fall in A or B?? just curious. But id say the ones who want to see the rw spec die are bads and just want specs where you spam spam spam spam than finisher. The rw spec was the only spec to differentiate the good wars from the bads. As of right now on the pts our highest hitting build is a spam one and the bads are loving it. If anything id rather see the aoe in the spec get toned down and just leave the st damage as is. I do not want a brainless spam spec, i want to know which wars im raiding with are legit and which isnt
    I couldn't agree more, an actual semi complex rotation is what sets the warriors apart, an all macro

    rotation is lol. Players don't like Rising Waterfall because its to hard...complain more...get some skills or go

    play a different game.

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    why all the pvp hate on the FB changes? we're getting a new ST finisher. Wait until you see what it does before going ape poop crazy over it. Personally, if the Icy Burst does a reasonable amount of damage I can only see it as more of a buff than a nerf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teufelshunde View Post
    I couldn't agree more, an actual semi complex rotation is what sets the warriors apart, an all macro

    rotation is lol. Players don't like Rising Waterfall because its to hard...complain more...get some skills or go

    play a different game.
    RW waterfall rotation is not hard nor is it complex its still 4 buttons 5 if you want to chuck in SB. Now what people are want is a change weve been playing RW for what seems like a eternity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Healz View Post
    RW waterfall rotation is not hard nor is it complex its still 4 buttons 5 if you want to chuck in SB. Now what people are want is a change weve been playing RW for what seems like a eternity.
    Saying RW is easy is like saying Baseball can be played on a world class level by everyone that tries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Healz View Post
    RW waterfall rotation is not hard nor is it complex its still 4 buttons 5 if you want to chuck in SB. Now what people are want is a change weve been playing RW for what seems like a eternity.
    Which actually have a rotation compared to what we are being pushed towards.

    An actual rotation compared to 2 button smashing shouldn't really be that hard to see which is the better spec to have being the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Angryweasel View Post
    Which actually have a rotation compared to what we are being pushed towards.

    An actual rotation compared to 2 button smashing shouldn't really be that hard to see which is the better spec to have being the best.
    Top specs for 2H and DW on PTS Set 2 is not exactly 2 buttons though. 43 RB / 23 CH (2 buttons) which was top DPS in PTS Set 1 was hit hard by EB changes.

    There would be new rotations coming out. Let's see what PTS Set 3 comes up with.

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    I'm waiting anxiously for the fix to EB(making it contribute extra damage to elemental damage builders again), WOTW proccing from 2H RW, the new RB burst finisher off the GCD to hit the PTS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intrinsc View Post
    I'm waiting anxiously for the fix to EB(making it contribute extra damage to elemental damage builders again), WOTW proccing from 2H RW, the new RB burst finisher off the GCD to hit the PTS.
    Yes, there is alot of specs to test. I am very much looking forward to the next set of notes as well.

    It's never easy to tinker with a build that has performed as well as the 38 Para 2H has performed (which might still prove to be very good with the WotW proc on RW). Overall however, these changes are definitely welcome and I do expect we would have more than 1 competitive spec in v1.8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackblade View Post
    Yes, there is alot of specs to test. I am very much looking forward to the next set of notes as well.

    It's never easy to tinker with a build that has performed as well as the 38 Para 2H has performed (which might still prove to be very good with the WotW proc on RW). Overall however, these changes are definitely welcome and I do expect we would have more than 1 competitive spec in v1.8.
    Oh, and one more thing that's kinda exciting is I think the return of the pure 44/22 DW build since RH is getting it's damage raised and RW actually hits hard in DW.'


    Oh, oh, and whatever they are changing IFA to I hope is some kind of passive so one warrior isn't SOL in their rotation applying it and they can DPS hard, too.
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    Default sure the dev knows this

    when it gets right down to it hes not playing the game 12 are 13 hours at a time are playing it at all
    i dont care how the dev wants to play the game he dont play at all dont need long drug out pain in the a##
    timing to get top dps just to make 2 players happy macros are fine should be as they are now

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    Yes im also eagerly awaiting the pts update i want to know if the RW can still be saved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vg stoper View Post
    when it gets right down to it hes not playing the game 12 are 13 hours at a time are playing it at all
    i dont care how the dev wants to play the game he dont play at all dont need long drug out pain in the a##
    timing to get top dps just to make 2 players happy macros are fine should be as they are now
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    Quote Originally Posted by vg stoper View Post
    when it gets right down to it hes not playing the game 12 are 13 hours at a time are playing it at all
    i dont care how the dev wants to play the game he dont play at all dont need long drug out pain in the a##
    timing to get top dps just to make 2 players happy macros are fine should be as they are now
    Huh?


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    Held off on testing after the first PTS iteration, hoping the patch goes up late today or early tomorrow.

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