AP Scaling and other DPS changes to the Warrior going up to PTS

[Ekso]

Changes FB the most correct of all changes 1.8, now all melee finishers aren't used and not because they are useless - FB crazy overpower finisher for 2 root ability

[Sebb]

Critical Hit damage bonus have no stacking penatly, it doesn't matter how high it goes it still gives correct percent... I could see 51 champ Destroyers ability have added 5-15% more crit damage...

Like someone else said, have Destroyers give the crit bonus from slayers, Dmg bonus from soldiers, and then the 1 AP proc - 51 champ fixed.

[Undrsiege]

But it was still out done on a dps basis by FB pretty easily.

FB needed a 10% Dmg reduction while giving PB a 10% increases. This change may throw off too many rotations.

FB will scale so much better in raids than punishing blow..

[Sebb]

FB will scale so much better in raids than punishing blow..

Why do you say that?

[Undrsiege]

Why do you say that?

14% more magical damage applied and it is not additive...

[Ekso]

We will be anyway competitive with other classes and with FB nerf, we have +1% additional bonus from Rift fury, Weapon Spec and Tot5R in comparison with 1.7 ;)

[Sebb]

14% more magical damage applied and it is not additive...

Compared to 5% + armor debuff

[Ekso]

Guys look 1.8 patchnotes, raid debuffs and buffs changes ;)

[Steelwind]

Atrius will probably change Improved Freeze Armor and turn it into a finisher to offset the Fiery Burst change. Then let this finisher give you a 15 second duration that increases elemental damage based on additive bonus.

[Undrsiege]

Guys look 1.8 patchnotes, raid debuffs and buffs changes ;)

Magic Damage Taken has 2 Sections

MAGIC DAMAGE TAKEN DEBUFF 1

MAGIC DAMAGE TAKEN DEBUFF 2

Which total 14%

[Ekso]

Magic Damage Taken has 2 Sections

MAGIC DAMAGE TAKEN DEBUFF 1

MAGIC DAMAGE TAKEN DEBUFF 2

Which total 14%

yep

10 char

[Wali]

The one other thing I will add on the Fiery Burst 10s nerf, is that you are getting a range of reactions from warriors based on the spec they play.

For the folks who love the 2H RW spec they look at the change and go "no big deal". That is because while FB is included in a 2H RW rotation, it is not the most critical finisher, SLI is. (of course when you change SLI the 2H RW lovers will cause an enormous uproar, but that will be a post for another day)

For someone who is planning on running a 51RB spec, the FB change have enormous consquences (which I laid out in a previous post) and are all bad.

If the goal of 1.8 is just to make us keep playing 2H RW, then FB at 10s makes sense. If you want to enable alternative specs like 51RB, then this change prevents you from meeting that goal. Of course, don't take my word for it, build a 51 RB spec and run the parses, the fail will quickly become evident.

[Ekso]

For RB spec we have
cast storm burst
cast earth burst
cast fiery burst
or
cast storm burst
cast fiery burst
if change to 8 sec duration

for DW para we have
Shifting Blades rotation and Riping Harvest with 20% + 10% crystall bonus

for Champ spec we have
Bladefury and Punishing Blow

for BM spec we have
Tearing Slash and Feral Sweep/Fiery Burst rotation

[Rizaz]

The one other thing I will add on the Fiery Burst 10s nerf, is that you are getting a range of reactions from warriors based on the spec they play.

For the folks who love the 2H RW spec they look at the change and go "no big deal". That is because while FB is included in a 2H RW rotation, it is not the most critical finisher, SLI is. (of course when you change SLI the 2H RW lovers will cause an enormous uproar, but that will be a post for another day)

For someone who is planning on running a 51RB spec, the FB change have enormous consquences (which I laid out in a previous post) and are all bad.

If the goal of 1.8 is just to make us keep playing 2H RW, then FB at 10s makes sense. If you want to enable alternative specs like 51RB, then this change prevents you from meeting that goal. Of course, don't take my word for it, build a 51 RB spec and run the parses, the fail will quickly become evident.

2h RW users do not exist any more.

Every round of changes has reduced the power of 2h RW. It's seriously terrible now.

[Ferago]

Seems like all this fallout has been caused by people complaining that the new rotations would be too easy. Well, now they're not as easy.

RIP 2h RW you served us well.

Honestly though, it did seem pretty ridiculous that a 2h build went so deep into the dual wield tree.