AP Scaling and other DPS changes to the Warrior going up to PTS

[Faydo]

Huge dps loss. You realize that 5% is nothing right? Additive bonuses suck horribly.

I think you misunderstood what i meant.

4p HK crystal gives 10% damage on searing strike , frost strike , thunder strike and rift strike for 10 seconds when using Riftwalk.
i asked if someone noticed any gain over using the spam rotation.

Also i know that additive bonuses suck but what choice do you have other than RB crystal?

[Sebb]

I think you misunderstood what i meant.

4p HK crystal gives 10% damage on searing strike , frost strike , thunder strike and rift strike for 10 seconds when using Riftwalk.
i asked if someone noticed any gain over using the spam rotation.

Also i know that additive bonuses suck but what choice do you have other than RB crystal?

Champion Crystal works well. 25% bonus on TS without having to waste 1 out of every 7 GCDs to refresh RW (although you shouldn't even have PB up). Use EB & SB on GCD over FB.

[gfiz]

Champion Crystal works well. 25% bonus on TS without having to waste 1 out of every 7 GCDs to refresh RW (although you shouldn't even have PB up). Use EB & SB on GCD over FB.

I believe he's talking about the 43/23 build, in which case the only logical crystal to use is the RB crystal for 5% more fire dmg.

To answer the question though, no, Riftwalk is not a dps boost, actually about a 200 dps loss.

[Ekso]

I think you misunderstood what i meant.

4p HK crystal gives 10% damage on searing strike , frost strike , thunder strike and rift strike for 10 seconds when using Riftwalk.
i asked if someone noticed any gain over using the spam rotation.

Also i know that additive bonuses suck but what choice do you have other than RB crystal?

its additive bonus, we have 200%+ bonuses from Rift Fury and Weapon Spec, and real profit from 4 item bonus ~2.5-3% dmg on searing strike , frost strike , thunder strike and rift strike for 10 seconds when using Riftwalk.

[Faydo]

Champion Crystal works well. 25% bonus on TS without having to waste 1 out of every 7 GCDs to refresh RW (although you shouldn't even have PB up). Use EB & SB on GCD over FB.

Question , how much did you parse using champion crystal?
Why would you use TS on a ST rotation?
also have you tried EB/SB ? not a good idea to have them prioritized over FB especially with how hard FB hits now.

[intrinsc]

I think using TS with champ crystal is better just because it's an AOE builder like MB. It's definitely not as good as RB crystal with searing, though.

[Faydo]

I think using TS with champ crystal is better just because it's an AOE builder like MB. It's definitely not as good as RB crystal with searing, though.

Excatly!
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[MiO]

So, question, why does RW proc WotW while dual wielding?

[intrinsc]

So, question, why does RW proc WotW while dual wielding?

Possible bug?

[Hunt55511]

So, question, why does RW proc WotW while dual wielding?

It doesn't. At least, not when I was parsing yesterday.

[Sharogy]

It doesn't. At least, not when I was parsing yesterday.

doesnt, which makes it pointless, since ds+dg+wotw = too strong !!.

after some testing, 38/23/5 seems to yield the highest st.

[Hunt55511]

doesnt, which makes it pointless, since ds+dg+wotw = too strong !!.

after some testing, 38/23/5 seems to yield the highest st.

Makes sense, all you really gain for going 3 deeper into champ is Proper Timing.

[Sebb]

Question , how much did you parse using champion crystal?
Why would you use TS on a ST rotation?
also have you tried EB/SB ? not a good idea to have them prioritized over FB especially with how hard FB hits now.

When I tested it, I was getting EB & SB critting higher than 4 crit ticks of FB with champ crystal. With RB crystal it was even. I was getting crit TS higher than crit SS.

I did not test with FA applied, that may change the game.

[Sekhmet The Fierce]

Also, the reason 51Champ still lags behind 38Para RW in AoE is simply because 51Champ doesn't have as many crit damage modifiers as 38 Para and doesn't have SLI. With SLI, that's 50% more damage, with then Slayers and FoW on top of that. With 51Champ, it is only Destroyer's 50% extra damage. Even when utilising certain new abilities and pushing out extra finishers when possible, it will always lag behind because its crit damage will never be as high and 38Para has a higher crit rate (by 2% more for non-followups).

So yeah, in ST and AoE, as long as 38 Para has access to a lot more damage modifiers, it will come out on top.

[Sebb]

Also, the reason 51Champ still lags behind 38Para RW in AoE is simply because 51Champ doesn't have as many crit damage modifiers as 38 Para and doesn't have SLI. With SLI, that's 50% more damage, with then Slayers and FoW on top of that. With 51Champ, it is only Destroyer's 50% extra damage. Even when utilising certain new abilities and pushing out extra finishers when possible, it will always lag behind because its crit damage will never be as high and 38Para has a higher crit rate (by 2% more for non-followups).

So yeah, in ST and AoE, as long as 38 Para has access to a lot more damage modifiers, it will come out on top.

What 51 Champ needs is better scaling on DS after 32 points.