AP Scaling and other DPS changes to the Warrior going up to PTS

[Grimmjow]

would 38 para 26 champ 2 rb parse higher with raid buffs compared to 44 para?

I'm not sure, and i havent tested it myself, but i would believe that 38/22/6 would be better and give a more smooth rotation. Since 2rb would only give u IB with the 4sec cd and leave a empty hole in the rotation.

[PFalcon]

some raid parses including best parsing spec from other classes:

Gear: T2 PA + Seal + Bis HK lvl
Buffs: All except wild growth
Ping time Delay: 200 ms on PTS

Raid Parse: http://minus.com/mF5IiFQ7p/7

Specs compared:
51/13/2 (2h) --- http://minus.com/mF5IiFQ7p/6
51/9/6 (2h) --- http://minus.com/mF5IiFQ7p/4
40/26 (bm) --- http://minus.com/mF5IiFQ7p/
44/22 (dw) --- http://minus.com/mF5IiFQ7p/5
Bloodstalker --- http://minus.com/mF5IiFQ7p/3
38/28 lock/pyro --- http://minus.com/mF5IiFQ7p/2


Extra Parses: (Seems the up time on GI can easily cause some RNG between the parses, to avoid rng an extra parse is done)
http://minus.com/mO3eEIeQU/1f (rogue on bladedancer and mage on 36/30 build).


Conclusion: All RNG considered, 51ch both variations, DW both variations, BM 40ch verison are all parsing very close to each other and very similar to rogue/mage top parsing specs.

PS: also tested 43 rb/23 ch, it is over 5% behind, tested 51 para, it is fairly decent, 2-3% behind.

Thanks, that looks good.

[Boysenberry]

With 51Para is Swift Blades a higher priority than Fiery Burst and Earth Burst?

[Kiika]

I just want 38/22/6 to be up there with rogues bloodstalker at least. I mean both specs require DW and have no aoe so there shouldnt be a reason why bloodstalker outperforms it. Because right now bloodstalker is just out of control

[Taxt]

some raid parses including best parsing spec from other classes:

Ty for this good sir.

Can't wait to hear Durango's response to this.

[Vitto]

A warrior beat a Rogue by 30 DPS?!!?!?!?!?!? KLJHDSFKLJASFKLJALFJLAFJSAFKLDJDLSAFJKLDSJFLA

[Zeuss]

has no one tryed 44para/20champ/2rb on the pts?

[Grimmjow]

has no one tryed 44para/20champ/2rb on the pts?

I cant really see a rotation that would work greatly with only 2 points into RB, since u will only have 2 oGCD finishers, SLI and IB. And since IB got a 4 sec cd u will miss a 3rd finisher to put into your rotation wich should be:

DS > RW > SLI > PS > RW > IB > DS > RW > missing finisher > DS > RW > IB > Rinse repeat

And in case u would use another finisher from eithe champ or para they will all be on the GCD and that would leave the last RW outside of the SLI meaning it would most likely be a dps loss.

But ofc i havent tried it myself, so cant really say how much of a loss/gain it could be.

[Durango]

Ty for this good sir.

Can't wait to hear Durango's response to this.

You mean a post that confirms everything I said about warrior DPS being even or better with other classes.... And hence no need for across the board warrior buffs... And that people were being a bit too much chicken little...

[PFalcon]

It looks freakishly even. You're never going to see a raid parse like that, but this is more than fine for publication.

[WilkesW]

I cant really see a rotation that would work greatly with only 2 points into RB, since u will only have 2 oGCD finishers, SLI and IB. And since IB got a 4 sec cd u will miss a 3rd finisher to put into your rotation wich should be:

DS > RW > SLI > PS > RW > IB > DS > RW > missing finisher > DS > RW > IB > Rinse repeat

And in case u would use another finisher from eithe champ or para they will all be on the GCD and that would leave the last RW outside of the SLI meaning it would most likely be a dps loss.

But ofc i havent tried it myself, so cant really say how much of a loss/gain it could be.

Guess you could execute the rotation something like:

PS>RW>SLI
DS>RW>SB
DS>RW>RH
DS>RW>SLI
PS>RW>IB
DS>RW>RH
DS>RW>IB

..and repeat, but I have a good feeling it will be < 38/20/6 and 44/22, Ill give it a go tonight.

[PFalcon]

I highly recommend dropping all RB from paragon. Go full reaping harvests and SLI as your only OGCD. You won't be sorry. Shifting blades in raid is about as fun as smashing cornered beast: Highly.

[intrinsc]

The easy way getting around the 4sec IB problem is doing an easy DS and RW every so often to fill in the gap. Absolutely zero issues.

[Flashmemory]

some raid parses including best parsing spec from other classes:

Gear: T2 PA + Seal + Bis HK lvl
Buffs: All except wild growth
Ping time Delay: 200 ms on PTS

Raid Parse: http://minus.com/mF5IiFQ7p/7

Specs compared:
51/13/2 (2h) --- http://minus.com/mF5IiFQ7p/6
51/9/6 (2h) --- http://minus.com/mF5IiFQ7p/4
40/26 (bm) --- http://minus.com/mF5IiFQ7p/
44/22 (dw) --- http://minus.com/mF5IiFQ7p/5
Bloodstalker --- http://minus.com/mF5IiFQ7p/3
38/28 lock/pyro --- http://minus.com/mF5IiFQ7p/2


Extra Parses: (Seems the up time on GI can easily cause some RNG between the parses, to avoid rng an extra parse is done)
http://minus.com/mO3eEIeQU/1f (rogue on bladedancer and mage on 36/30 build).


Conclusion: All RNG considered, 51ch both variations, DW both variations, BM 40ch verison are all parsing very close to each other and very similar to rogue/mage top parsing specs.

PS: also tested 43 rb/23 ch, it is over 5% behind, tested 51 para, it is fairly decent, 2-3% behind.

Thanks..you and your raid deserve a title. XD. If it is possible to test these builds in fulll ID relic with full PAs to see how the next gear progression is scaling across the classes it would be nice. I know mages are getting changes to bring their dps down slightly but just wondering where we all meet up at the end game when all is said and done.

[Steelwind]

Everyone, should we get the str Seal with attack power mod or the dex Seal?