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    Most people have already parsed out a lot of the builds already, so I didn't do a lot of 2h stuff. I'm going to work on some not popular DW parses next:

    All stats were 1301 AP/1008PC w/ GI and Kraken.

    51CH/2BM/13RB
    http://i.imgur.com/kcFQ6.jpg


    51Ch/9PG/6RB
    http://i.imgur.com/ZQsOT.jpg

    Subtract 54 dps for the first BF I used hitting a nearby dummy. Was a bit lower than the BM variant, but much larger aoe potential.


    44BM/22champ - credit to blackblade (I think) for this idea. Build had a lot of promise, just need to work on the rotation. A bit power hungry. It was topping out near 3k with 5% debuff.

    http://i.imgur.com/1B6g8.jpg


    ****DW****

    DW stats: 1321 AP / 1013 PC with 2x Fangs and Whetstones

    51 Para/15RB (thanks Sharogy for helping):
    http://i.imgur.com/sQXh7.jpg

    51 RB/15PG need to use two whetstones. Confirmed that two lightning glyphs does not work because you lose about 60 top end damage on your RW, and only gain 45 AP.
    http://i.imgur.com/4yhvw.jpg
    Last edited by Sebb; 04-06-2012 at 09:13 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebb View Post
    Most people have already parsed out a lot of the builds already, so I didn't do a lot of 2h stuff. I'm going to work on some not popular DW parses next:

    All stats were 1310 AP/1010PC w/ GI and Kraken.

    51CH/2BM/13RB
    http://i.imgur.com/kcFQ6.jpg


    51Ch/9PG/6RB
    http://i.imgur.com/ZQsOT.jpg

    Subtract 54 dps for the first BF I used hitting a nearby dummy. Was a bit lower than the BM variant, but much larger aoe potential.


    44BM/22champ - credit to blackblade (I think) for this idea. Build had a lot of promise, just need to work on the rotation. A bit power hungry. It was topping out near 3k with 5% debuff.

    http://i.imgur.com/1B6g8.jpg
    In your BM macros how are your pet commands setup?

    petcast Bite
    petattack

    In that order?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steelwind View Post
    In your BM macros how are your pet commands setup?

    petcast Bite
    petattack

    In that order?
    heh just had petcast Bite


    I'm a huge BM noob.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebb View Post
    Got something similar with a bit more AP and a bit less crit, and the ID polearm without stone instead of a Kraken with stone ( should account for the same weapon dps ).

    How about ditching Fiery Burst from the rotation? The thing was doing so little damage that I felt the line where oGCD finishers become inferior to GCD finishers was crossed.
    Maybe going 51/10/5 - maximized damage-mod talent, and Titan's strike / Bladefury / Punishing Blow as finishers. Keeping the Flamespear and for extreme scenarios at least one DW ranged attack ( I did say extreme ! ).
    I thought it was more manageable while retaining the same DPS.
    Last edited by Shakaale; 04-06-2012 at 11:41 AM.

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    Playing ketchup again...

    So to be clear it has been found that IB in a rotation is still better than BF for single target correct?
    From the last few parses shown IB seems to be the finisher of choice versus BF.

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    Yet another round of parsing to toss out there:

    Thanks to vendors gear is equal for 2h and dw this time

    -DW parse has 2x fangs, 2H parses have kraken
    -all parses are WITH golem inductor.
    -all parses with max consumables: oilstone or 2x exquisite whestone + tablet + cake + 40vial.
    -unbuffed DW stats: 1295 AP, 1042 Crit
    -unbuffed 2H stats: 1265 AP, 1035 Crit

    43RB/23Champ/0filler with RB Crystal
    (03:07) 43/23 RB crystal: 3037 Exx-Rift Strike-4279 | Exx | 3037
    http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...stal462012.png

    41RB/23Champ/2Reaver with RB Crystal
    (03:11) 41/23/2 RB crystal: 2997 Exx-Rift Strike-4181 | Exx | 2997
    http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...stal462012.png

    40Champ/26BM/0RB with BM Crystal
    (03:10) 40/26/0 BM crystal: 2917 Exx-Tearing Slash-3904 | Exx | 2917
    http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...stal462012.png

    51Champ/13RB/2BM with BM Crystal
    (03:11) 51/13/2 BM crystal: 3149 Exx-Tearing Slash-5670 | Exx | 3149
    http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...stal462012.png

    38Paragon/22Champ/6RB with Para Crystal
    (03:08) 38/22/6 Para crystal: 3150 Exx-Rising Waterfall-3908 | Exx | 3150
    http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...stal462012.png
    Last edited by Pajac1; 04-06-2012 at 12:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharogy View Post
    Some new raidbuffed parses between different warrior specs: (avg 150-200 ping time)

    Specs compared:
    51 ch 13 rb 2 bm
    38 par 22 ch 6 rb
    40 ch 26 bm

    Buffs missing:
    5% crit from poison debuff
    cutting distraction
    7% magic from clinging spirit

    Overall DPS Comparison: HK gear T2 PA
    http://minus.com/mSVXNEU6a/5f

    51 ch 13 rb 2 bm parse:
    http://minus.com/mSVXNEU6a/8f

    38 par 22 ch 2 rb parse:
    http://minus.com/mSVXNEU6a/7f

    40ch 26 bm parse:
    http://minus.com/mSVXNEU6a/6f

    ===================

    Overall Dps Comparison: ID gear T2 PA
    http://minus.com/mSVXNEU6a/4f

    51 ch 13 bm 2 rb:
    http://minus.com/mSVXNEU6a/2f

    38 par 22 ch 6 rb:
    http://minus.com/mSVXNEU6a/3f

    40 ch 26 bm:
    http://minus.com/mSVXNEU6a/1f

    =========================

    2h seems to be very equal to DW in raid for now and the near future.
    thx for the well controlled parses. im assuming DW pulls ahead by a little with full ID gear, maybe due to the procs?
    Last edited by Kwerd; 04-06-2012 at 12:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pajac1 View Post
    38Paragon/22Champ/6RB with Para Crystal
    (03:08) 38/22/6 Para crystal: 3150 Exx-Rising Waterfall-3908 | Exx | 3150
    http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...stal462012.png
    I see you used Way of the Wind. An extra 30% Rising Waterfall damage from Way of the Mountain would have been worth 53.1k which is more than Way of the Wind did. Am I missing something about your choice of Way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OdinTGE View Post
    I see you used Way of the Wind. An extra 30% Rising Waterfall damage from Way of the Mountain would have been worth 53.1k which is more than Way of the Wind did. Am I missing something about your choice of Way?
    Yah, that 30% isn't really 30% since it's all additive and our +dmg% is already so high.
    Last edited by mattya802; 04-06-2012 at 02:58 PM.
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    PTS goes down in the middle of parsing. *queue michael scott nNOOOO clip*

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    Quote Originally Posted by intrinsc View Post
    PTS goes down in the middle of parsing. *queue michael scott nNOOOO clip*
    Especially bad, considering i skipped a dota2 match with some buddys and now have to wait an hour for them to be done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OdinTGE View Post
    I see you used Way of the Wind. An extra 30% Rising Waterfall damage from Way of the Mountain would have been worth 53.1k which is more than Way of the Wind did. Am I missing something about your choice of Way?
    With 38/22/6 we have +198% dmg from Rift Fury, Tor5R and Weapon Spec, +35% dmg from SLI (+100% for fallow UP attaks), +10% to all DW builders from Para crystall etc, and 30% bonus its only 7-8% real profit dmg ;)
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    I will not be replying over the next week. But I will be reading. Thank you all for your continued feedback and passion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrius View Post
    I will not be replying over the next week. But I will be reading. Thank you all for your continued feedback and passion.
    Vacation or crunch time for release?

    And thanks for your hard work.
    Last edited by intrinsc; 04-06-2012 at 08:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebb View Post
    Most people have already parsed out a lot of the builds already, so I didn't do a lot of 2h stuff. I'm going to work on some not popular DW parses next:

    All stats were 1301 AP/1008PC w/ GI and Kraken.

    51CH/2BM/13RB
    http://i.imgur.com/kcFQ6.jpg


    51Ch/9PG/6RB
    http://i.imgur.com/ZQsOT.jpg

    Subtract 54 dps for the first BF I used hitting a nearby dummy. Was a bit lower than the BM variant, but much larger aoe potential.


    44BM/22champ - credit to blackblade (I think) for this idea. Build had a lot of promise, just need to work on the rotation. A bit power hungry. It was topping out near 3k with 5% debuff.

    http://i.imgur.com/1B6g8.jpg


    ****DW****

    DW stats: 1321 AP / 1013 PC with 2x Fangs and Whetstones

    51 Para/15RB (thanks Sharogy for helping):
    http://i.imgur.com/sQXh7.jpg

    51 RB/15PG need to use two whetstones. Confirmed that two lightning glyphs does not work because you lose about 60 top end damage on your RW, and only gain 45 AP.
    http://i.imgur.com/4yhvw.jpg
    Updated with some DW parses. Couldn't think of anything else to try out that others haven't done already.
    Seb - R40 OP PVP Warrior
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    New WF Idea for Rift
    SAVE THE VK!!!

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