AP Scaling and other DPS changes to the Warrior going up to PTS

[Sebb]

Ok, so Deadly Grace and WotW, which are counted as separate attacks from DS, are the only things that won't trigger bursts?

In that case agreed, it shouldn't change much for 38Para/6Rb.

Not sure what exactly the point of this change is, then, but meh, don't much care to go looking for trouble.

It was a bug fix it seems.

The only thing I feel we need before 1.8 now would be to change IB back to a 3s CD, or have scald reduce the CD of IB by 0.5/1 seconds to keep /2 builds from abusing.

[Edgeseed]

I just ran couple parses this morning for 51Champ/13RB/2BM. I parse only 2850 with Kraken, GI, Consumable (35str/dex pot, cake, oilstone), 1200AP/1062Crit.

Rotation are keeping TS up and then spam burst abilities. I really want to see a parse (Image with breakdown) on 51champ/13rb/2bm and how in the world it's able to parse 3.2K with T2 gear.

For 38/22/6, I still parse 2950 with 2 epic 1-hander.

With the latest change to DB, 51champ is doing the same amount of dps as 43rb/23champ.

BTW: Blood Fever bug hasn't fixed yet. It still crit like 1.4K which it's useless.

[Sebb]

BTW: Blood Fever bug hasn't fixed yet. It still crit like 1.4K which it's useless.

Next pts update. When the 25% on DB goes to 100%

[Drathek]

I just got done parsing a few favorite builds of mine on PTS. Not surprisingly, they are a lot closer to one another than before. 38para, 44para builds, and at least 2H 40champ/26BM are very, very close to one another. I have a relic 2H, but no relic 1Hers, so I bet the difference is even more with relic 1Hers. However, with a gap this close, you'd be dumb to pass on weapons because one set of builds is outperforming the other, such as live and RW build, because that just is not the case. At least, that is what I just saw. I didn't test 51champ builds or the old 43rb builds. Don't have enough time.

I have a short combatlog if Atrius needs it.

U got me confused now intrinsc! A few pages ago u are saying dw and 40 champ/26 bm are very very close to one another. But just now u post that dw was parsing much much higher. Which is it?

[Edgeseed]

Next pts update. When the 25% on DB goes to 100%

DB is 100% now, from what I tested early this morning. Although the tooltip is 25%, it proc 100% for elemental abilities.

And I still only parse 2850 even with the lastest DB changes (100% proc)

[intrinsc]

U got me confused now intrinsc! A few pages ago u are saying dw and 40 champ/26 bm are very very close to one another. But just now u post that dw was parsing much much higher. Which is it?

One build can be close to the other while still parsing higher. Maybe I should have said higher instead of "much" higher.

[Ekso]

couple more changes coming soon.

1) Destroyer's Bearing now gives the extra Attack Point on Bursts at 100%.

2) Intense Training now only increases Physical damage on Destroyer's bearing. The end Result is that Destroyer's Bearing enhances Physical damage by 50%, and Elemental damage by 35%.

3) Way of the Wind and Deadly Grace can no longer trigger Bursts.

4) Fixed the bug with Blood Fever where it was not getting appropriate damage bonus.

Good change, but let's solve all problems of the dps warrior - RB/BM/Para soul, champion soul now rather interesting

1. Para soul - we have actual builds with only 38 or 44 points in soul, 51 root = less dps, reduced cooldown Flurry and Swift blades to 24 sec, and 51 Para will have dps similar 44 or 38 specs

2. BM soul - we have actual builds with only 26 point in BM soul, high point BM = less dps, and huge loss AoE dps + strong rotation, and in the 100-th time I will offer:
a) increased dmg Diversion Strike (200% AP contribution) and reduced their cooldown to 10 sec
b) increased dmg Primal Rage or increased their Duration
c) give +% pet dmg or bleed dmg for each point spent to BM soul after 30+ - BM analog Deadly Strikes, Elemental Touch and Dual Grace

3. High point RB soul - we have actual builds with only 2-15 or 38-43 points spent to RB soul, 51 point soul - less dps, 44 root? - useless in raid pve, imho need increased bonus from AotR to 100% and give it IB cooldowns reduction to 2 sec

[Ekso]

and give it IB cooldowns reduction to 2 sec

its AotR bonus ofc

[intrinsc]

Reduce IB Cooldown to 3 seconds at the lowest. This would allow for slightly smoother DW rotations for the builds that use it. Thanks.

[Undrsiege]

It was a bug fix it seems.

The only thing I feel we need before 1.8 now would be to change IB back to a 3s CD, or have scald reduce the CD of IB by 0.5/1 seconds to keep /2 builds from abusing.

That will not happen...

[gfiz]

A 2H build I've been playing around with now for a few weeks that I don't see alot of mention, 44BM, 22CH, 0 RB. Parse does not include enraged companion buff. Gear is all live gear, 600 PA, GI and Kraken, no T3 PA.

2962 DPS:
http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/399/44bm22ch0rb.png

[Leetina]

Reduce IB Cooldown to 3 seconds at the lowest. This would allow for slightly smoother DW rotations for the builds that use it. Thanks.

this, or an alternative way to have a smooth rotation while DW.

[Pajac1]

this, or an alternative way to have a smooth rotation while DW.

What's so unsmooth about SLI > IB > FB > IB > SLI as a finisher rotation?

If frenzied becomes the only skill that can proc bursts like I suspect it to then it would be

SLI > FB > RH > IB > SLI.

those are both for 38/22/6, 44/22/0 is even more smooth.

[Sekhmet The Fierce]

What's so unsmooth about SLI > IB > FB > IB > SLI as a finisher rotation?

If frenzied becomes the only skill that can proc bursts like I suspect it to then it would be

SLI > FB > RH > IB > SLI.

those are both for 38/22/6, 44/22/0 is even more smooth.

Normal abilities will still unleash bursts. Just not the procs of those abilities.

[Sebb]

That will not happen...

There's no real reason to have it at 4s. All it does is keep you from getting 3s IB off in a row with WM or DB.

There are only two specs that would be affected: 44PG and 51CH. It's a very small boost for the 51 champ spec now (50 ish) if you are running a 0BM variant. It does not effect the build if you run the /2bm variant.

For all other specs, it's more of a QOL thing.