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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharogy View Post
    "3) Way of the Wind and Deadly Grace can no longer trigger Bursts"

    ?? what is this suppose to mean, i dont understand this
    Same. Would like clarification if this is a bugfix and shouldn't change "normal" play or if this will modify standard rotations somehow.

    I know that if you fire off POTW at ranged with WOTW up, that triggers an instant WOTW proc even before POTW travels and hits. So now the burst will apply when POTW gets there and not when WOTW triggers instantly on use of POTW? Is that all?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pajac1 View Post
    If I understand this right, Every Time you get a way of the wind proc or a deadly grace proc that burst will not go off, even if you have used it and its on your buffs waiting to be applied?

    as I take it the only skill you can use bursts in 38/22/6 would be frenzied Strike if you have way of the wind up?

    Would make it so you can use only 2 burst per SLI and not 3 as you do now.

    Making sure I'm understanding this right
    This is how I'm understanding it but it clearly needs clarification.

    Obviously, if it still proc'd off the originally hit, then this wouldn't change anything.
    You can put something here? Neat!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrius View Post
    couple more changes coming soon.

    1) Destroyer's Bearing now gives the extra Attack Point on Bursts at 100%.

    2) Intense Training now only increases Physical damage on Destroyer's bearing. The end Result is that Destroyer's Bearing enhances Physical damage by 50%, and Elemental damage by 35%.

    3) Way of the Wind and Deadly Grace can no longer trigger Bursts.

    4) Fixed the bug with Blood Fever where it was not getting appropriate damage bonus.
    Thank you, seems like a much smoother balance, and some various bug fixes.

    1) assuming you mean "on bursts at 100%" meaning 3AP bursts?

    2) seems like a good balance, will pts parse soon (or when change go through)...

    3) To clarify (as some ppl are confused), you do simply mean that WotW and Deadly Grace will no longer count as an attack skill with which the Burst skills can procc from, correct?

    4) IS this due to a lack of dmg buffs it was getting? Or was it getting too much buffing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by batou079 View Post
    Thank you, seems like a much smoother balance, and some various bug fixes.

    1) assuming you mean "on bursts at 100%" meaning 3AP bursts?

    2) seems like a good balance, will pts parse soon (or when change go through)...

    3) To clarify (as some ppl are confused), you do simply mean that WotW and Deadly Grace will no longer count as an attack skill with which the Burst skills can procc from, correct?

    4) IS this due to a lack of dmg buffs it was getting? Or was it getting too much buffing?

    Cheers!
    Im pretty sure hes fixed the fact that it was getting the ranged damage mod rather than the melee damage mod. This might make including 2 rvr in some builds worth while. And I just have to say... YE gods he does listen sometimes XD. Thanks for the destroyers and blood fever fixes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebb View Post
    Bravo.

    Edit : Is there still increased damage for physical finishers?

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    43rb parsed very close to 40champ/26bm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by intrinsc View Post
    43rb parsed very close to 40champ/26bm.
    I just jumped on for a few min. Parsed 43 23, kraken, 790 pas, full hk relic gear with GI. I was right around 2950ish over 5 min.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sebb View Post
    Bravo.

    Edit : Is there still increased damage for physical finishers?

    /10/10
    Yes there is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrius View Post
    Yes there is.
    Excellent. I will parse next PTS update when the 25% goed away and compare 51ch with /15 RB, 10 para 5 BM, and 15 BM.

    Edit: did a rough test with 51 ch/10para/5bm - was at 2600 with full epic HK gear and grug axe no GI - 1350 AP/950 crit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by batou079 View Post

    3) To clarify (as some ppl are confused), you do simply mean that WotW and Deadly Grace will no longer count as an attack skill with which the Burst skills can procc from, correct?
    That is correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atrius View Post
    That is correct.
    Does the base attack (i.e Dual Strike / Follow Up) proc the bursts? Or is it such that any attack with WoTW / DG proc will not proc the burst (i.e only Frenzied Strike can proc a burst once every 6 secs).

    If the above is correct, it's an innovative way to bring down the damage of Para builds whilst maintaining the core Para mechanics.

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    Atrius,

    Could you take another look at Scald? Originally, when you introduced Icy Burst with a 1s cool down the 20% bonus on Scald made sense. Given that the damage of Icy Burst has been reduced multiple times since then and the cool down increased to 4s, Scald seems to provide minimal benefit (~1% of dps) from using Fiery Burst/Icy Burst in the manner originally intended.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wali View Post
    Atrius,

    Could you take another look at Scald? Originally, when you introduced Icy Burst with a 1s cool down the 20% bonus on Scald made sense. Given that the damage of Icy Burst has been reduced multiple times since then and the cool down increased to 4s, Scald seems to provide minimal benefit (~1% of dps) from using Fiery Burst/Icy Burst in the manner originally intended.
    I will not be increasing Scald at this time, currently it is doing what it needs to do and raising it will only exacerbate other problem builds.

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    WB Atrius. We all missed you this past week. Take it you've been busy (or needed some time off )
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlienFromBeyond View Post
    You mean 51 champ/13 rb/2 reaver right?
    From what I've seen on the PTS, blood fever isn't hitting hard enough, dot included, to be worth it. Also, ravaging strike is hitting harder than searing strike or power strike, around 120 more on crits, not sure if it is more than fierce strike as I didn't have the bm crystal at the time.
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