AP Scaling and other DPS changes to the Warrior going up to PTS

[PFalcon]

Was probably the 1-2 AP IB zerg spec with full power-buffs (tablet, fervor, 3/3 grim), can imagine that would reach pretty high, hence the the CD on icy burst was implemented.

Nope, that spec existed too but was obliterated alongside a 3-AP IB spec which was "overpowered" as well.

[PFalcon]

Make SLI not affect elemental attacks lol...that should nerf paragon 2 RB...wait does SLI affect it? I've been testing nonelemental specs so much I can't even remember.

[BDubbed]

Looking good, can you post their stats used and weapons, for those 2?

pg. 297 its all there

Vohn

[Pajac1]

Looking good, can you post their stats used and weapons, for those 2?

Im the warrior in that parse.
my DW stats are 1197 AP, 1079 crit with 0/0/0 on pts
2x darktide axes full PA on all dex/str nodes, axe nodes, ranged nodes, and 2h nodes. (i know 2h doesnt matter for this particular parse)
no golem inductor, had challenge of rivals on.

Rogue had Soliton blade/molton brand and non-relic ranged.
also had Golem inductor.
much less PA, hes at 24k and think only had dagger maxed.
his 0/0/0 stats were 1167 AP and 1045 crit

[Durango]

Don't ignore his post Durango and pick and choose which you respond to so that you can twist their words. No Warriors are parsing that high in any build right now. YOUR numbers are skewed.

my numbers are perfectly accurate. They were done with the same gear level and same pa level in a full raid setup. The DPS clustering of warriors, mages, rogues, and clerics were tight as well with each class having a dps range of <100 within the class with the same specs.

I would suggest that other guilds get on equal gear level and equal PA levels and parse. And yes, that means if rogues are using relic 1hdrs then warriors should be as well. Equalize on either full T1 or full T2 PAs. And yes, that means an incredibly long time clicking PAs. They really need a shift-click option for PAs.

[PFalcon]

I suggest people reset their PA and not even use it to test with, and anyone with obvious PA in their test spec be chased out of the topic. The standard test spec should be:

Empty trinket slot
0 PA

[Durango]

Doing comparative parses in Live gear will give more realistic results since not everyone will have equal gear and PA at all times.

For your individual raid maybe, but for cross class comparisons it is inaccurate. Parses should be done with equivalent gear and PAs for any cross class DPS comparison.

[Voldeth]

my numbers are perfectly accurate. They were done with the same gear level and same pa level in a full raid setup. The DPS clustering of warriors, mages, rogues, and clerics were tight as well with each class having a dps range of <100 within the class with the same specs.

I would suggest that other guilds get on equal gear level and equal PA levels and parse. And yes, that means if rogues are using relic 1hdrs then warriors should be as well. Equalize on either full T1 or full T2 PAs. And yes, that means an incredibly long time clicking PAs. They really need a shift-click option for PAs.

We aren't taking your word for it. Post a parse. It should be easy since you've already said you sent in the data to devs. Just post that data here.

[batou079]

my numbers are perfectly accurate. They were done with the same gear level and same pa level in a full raid setup. The DPS clustering of warriors, mages, rogues, and clerics were tight as well with each class having a dps range of <100 within the class with the same specs.

I would suggest that other guilds get on equal gear level and equal PA levels and parse. And yes, that means if rogues are using relic 1hdrs then warriors should be as well. Equalize on either full T1 or full T2 PAs. And yes, that means an incredibly long time clicking PAs. They really need a shift-click option for PAs.

I think people are asking for parses. While we also appreciate testing with a good gear comparisons, they don't mean much if a person simply "says" that something is 400 ahead or 400 behind, etc etc. This thread is 300 pages not just people saying what they saw, but it has netted this much discussion because our community is constantly posting parses to prove what they tested so that we have valid data to discuss with our devs and eachother.

If you truelly want to add the conversion and are not simply trolling, your parses screenshots are more then welcome.

[intrinsc]

Atrius: DW is still far too high above any 2H build on PTS. Please fix.

[Mist26]

I suggest people reset their PA and not even use it to test with, and anyone with obvious PA in their test spec be chased out of the topic. The standard test spec should be:

Empty trinket slot
0 PA

I have to say I disagree with a lot of your posts, mostly due to how the tone of your posts come across, but this is a good idea.

It would set a baseline to start at with no RNG trinkets affecting the overall outcome.

[MiO]

Atrius: DW is still far too high above any 2H build on PTS. Please fix.

Asking for nerfs


Please no to sli not affecting rb stuff, thats like asking for arms/fury/prot.

[Pajac1]

Asking for nerfs


Please no to sli not affecting rb stuff, thats like asking for arms/fury/prot.

or asking for buffs to 2H!

[Faydo]

While i personally didn't like PFalcon's previous posts , i don't think his last post about resetting PAs would be a bad idea , simply because it is hard to have the same PA level among the people who are on the PTS.

I know that DW is way ahead of 2h and some people asked atrius to do something , but please atrius for the love of god when we ask you to fix it we actually want you to BUFF 2H NOT NERF DW to have it comparable with 2h. we don't want to be way behind other classes just because DW is way ahead of 2H

[Sebb]

Atrius: 2h is still far too low on PTS. Please fix.

^^^ Fixed ^^^