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    Right, the Riftblade as written is as sensitive to ability placement as the old version of the RW warrior was -_-\

    Is it better to do
    FB->EB->IB->IB->FB?
    FB->EB->IB->FB->EB?

    If one is better than the other, then it doesn't look like you're going to be able to mash them all into the same macro because that 2nd IB versus a FB gets very very close.

    Shouldn't technically matter where you put blood fever once your rotation gets going. I guess it should go first. Pretty sure max dps from fever is to let it fall completely off then use fever that next GCD.

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    So I added Zauric (paper/Storytime)'s RB/Champ/RvR parses to my parse page. His hits are a bit higher than mine, so I'm assuming he had higher AP, but still pretty close

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    My testing character is on Omega which is closed so I can't parse atm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neterim View Post
    So I added Zauric's RB/Champ/RvR parses to my parse page. His hits are a bit higher than mine, so I'm assuming he had higher AP, but still pretty close

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    My testing character is on Omega which is closed so I can't parse atm.
    1230ish AP and 1020ish crit are my unbuffed stats on PTS as I recall, so I'm pretty heavily AP focused.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paper View Post
    1230ish AP and 1020ish crit are my unbuffed stats on PTS as I recall, so I'm pretty heavily AP focused.
    Zauric = Paper, now everything makes sense.

    1217 AP 1095 Crit were my 2H stats, so we're good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neterim View Post
    Zauric = Paper, now everything makes sense.
    I like to name all of my copies differently on PTS. The only thing consistent is the pink robes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paper View Post
    Refreshed blood fever after the dot fell off. ACT records dot tics + the initial hit for # of hits.
    This is exactly what I was asking, thank you. I am doing the rotation correctly after all then.
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    So our best 2H DPS is by putting 2 pts in tank tree to maximize DoT management?

    No thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paper View Post
    1230ish AP and 1020ish crit are my unbuffed stats on PTS as I recall, so I'm pretty heavily AP focused.
    You would still hit right around soft cap with full raid buffs and consumables wouldn't you? 1200+ AP seems quite attainable IMO. Good to know

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carinae View Post
    So our best 2H DPS is by putting 2 pts in tank tree to maximize DoT management?

    No thanks.
    Rogues put 15+ points in a tank soul for their top DPS spec
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carinae View Post
    So our best 2H DPS is by putting 2 pts in tank tree to maximize DoT management?

    No thanks.
    Same issue for Rogue dear. Don't worry, it's only about 50 dps higher than a non-reaver version. And good thing is we parsed it and hopefully Atrius will fix it. Honestly, I prefer 40/26 RB champ for more aoe and less management.

    Riftstalker should not be used for a top dps spec, but I'm not Aillion and hopefully Atrius is not a Aillion wannabe
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    Don't know about you guys, but in my opinion Dual-wield is where it should be. Champion, BM and 51 Riftblade needs something. I also think 51 Para's swift blades should be passive. Why can't Atrius just add an damage increasing effect to on-gcd finisher ? I keep suggesting it and I'm getting no opinion about it.

    Concept is pretty simple : Every time you do a on-gcd finisher or use debilitating strike (one of the two or w/e), the target gets a debuff that can stack to x number that increase on-gcd finisher damage (ap contribution, %, static value, w/e) on him. So champion's playstyle would be to quickly build up that debuff. Could even gives a 30 sec CD Mark that refresh it to prevent disconnect to be too hard on us. Also, why not makes our Mark abilities deal damage when used in melee range ? just some ideas.

    51 Riftblade is so focused on Burst that you're basically forced to to 15 para for extra attack point...he needs to get back AP scaling increase back in it or makes Icy Burst gives a bonus attack point when it can proc Scald, I don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neterim View Post
    Same issue for Rogue dear. Don't worry, it's only about 50 dps higher than a non-reaver version. And good thing is we parsed it and hopefully Atrius will fix it. Honestly, I prefer 40/26 RB champ for more aoe and less management.

    Riftstalker should not be used for a top dps spec, but I'm not Aillion and hopefully Atrius is not a Aillion wannabe
    one would begin to think Aillion and Atrius are one in the same.. just saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neterim View Post
    Don't know about you guys, but in my opinion Dual-wield is where it should be. Champion, BM and 51 Riftblade needs something. I also think 51 Para's swift blades should be passive. Why can't Atrius just add an damage increasing effect to on-gcd finisher ? I keep suggesting it and I'm getting no opinion about it.

    Concept is pretty simple : Every time you do a finisher or use debilitating strike (one of the two or w/e), the target gets a debuff that can stack to x number that increase on-gcd finisher damage (ap contribution, %, static value, w/e) on him.

    51 Riftblade is so focused on Burst that you're basically forced to to 15 para for extra attack point...he needs to get back AP scaling increase back in it or something.
    I like what your thinking.. but I hope you don't feel that dw should be our top dps soul.. I want 2h and dw to be within at least 50dps.. then player skill can decide which spec does more dps etc.. Don't want a lot of dw warriors in raid, because for progression that is rough when rogues need one handers as well.. and don't get me started on relics.. If dw and 2h are equal that would leave at least one person who loves dw to play it in raids and not everyone. I like 2h>dw and someone who is a min/max i don't want to have to dw in raids.. but I will.
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    I've always been a proponent of having 2H builds being the top DPS because the weapon is exclusive to our class. Should DW be close behind? Sure! But, making DW be top DPS will just cause more problems than it would fix.

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    It seems like everyone wants 51 champ top st dps and maybe Sebb is right make it be top 2h stdps leader after you reduce the aoe it can pump out to be similar to other classes top st dps soul. Might not even adjust damage at all just greatly reduce numer of targets it can aoe..
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