AP Scaling and other DPS changes to the Warrior going up to PTS

[Sebb]

Here. DW and 2H parses from the SAME person. Paper.

DW - 44/20/2
http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...29170486_n.jpg

2H - 41/23/2
http://i.imgur.com/4o7Vx.png

Really need to get raid buffed parses here. The AP scaling on 44/20/2 should end up much higher than the 41/23/2 last I checked.

[Mack0603]

There's no 2h dps spec that holds up to DW.

Why do you people keep saying this? Look at my post above yours.

The 2H RB spec should pull ahead on AoE, compared to DW. Rift Storm is not channeled like its Champ or Para counterpart. I think it would perform quite well and compete well with an all out Champ AoE build.

[Mack0603]

Really need to get raid buffed parses here. The AP scaling on 44/20/2 should end up much higher than the 41/23/2 last I checked.

I think thats what needs to be changed so we can bring it up to par with DW. Maybe increasing weapon damage back up to the norm as well?

[Tufelhunden]

Bah I just want solid 2h ST DPS. Personally, I hate DW as I am not a fricking Rogue. Yes I know we can, no I prefer to smash and bash with a a monster two hander.

[Itseotle]

Where did the idea of 2H ST DPS being 500dps behind DW come from? It's not.

Parses are not mine, just taken from within this thread a couple pages back.

41/23/2 RB/Champ/Reav
http://i.imgur.com/4o7Vx.png

44/20/2 Para/Champ/RB
http://i.imgur.com/EmV9M.png

But like I said before, I would love to see a competitive 2H ST DPS spec. Was just clearing up some misinformation that was spread. I do agree, further changes need to be made

Whats the build/orotation for the 42/32/2? I only used blood fever to refresh the dot as it (for me) does less damage than unbuffed searing strike, but the posted parse shows a lot more hits.

[XxShunsuixX]

Whats the build/orotation for the 42/32/2? I only used blood fever to refresh the dot as it (for me) does less damage than unbuffed searing strike, but the posted parse shows a lot more hits.

What you do is Look at the parse paper linked and then figure out rotation there.. All you people constantly want rotations and specs etc.. just go and learn it yourself.. or figure out how to breakdown a parse.

[Itseotle]

What you do is Look at the parse paper linked and then figure out rotation there.. All you people constantly want rotations and specs etc.. just go and learn it yourself.. or figure out how to breakdown a parse.

Not entirely true what "us people" do ya know. What are "you people" anyways? I play the game too just like you and if you read my post (which you probably didn't read the whole thing) you just wanted to get your troll hard on going to flame someone cuz I did look through it. Maybe you could ahve saved me a few minutes of tweaking spec/rotations by just enlightening? Guess your got your head too far up your rear end though, just like all the other trolls. But thank you for providing another constructive response to your community. Your words are worth there weight in gold.

That said, by what I can see (cuz ya know im a dumb "people") its 3x searing and 3x fever per frost strike, so obviously its used more often than I was using it, but again that doesn't explain why its hitting harder (or is it?) than mine. I'm only T1 raid geared though, and at that gear level most of the specs that have been posted and ones I've created myself through intuition have all been parsing about the same, roughly 2150-2300 self buffed vs dummy. I sit at around roughly 1090AP and 1100 Crit (I know my crit is a bit high)

EDIT: just wanted to add, I don't feel "entitiled" to the info or anything, I could figure it out on my own. But why not save me some time

[Rukog]

What you do is Look at the parse paper linked and then figure out rotation there.. All you people constantly want rotations and specs etc.. just go and learn it yourself.. or figure out how to breakdown a parse.

Using my rudimentary reading comprehension skills, I'm pretty sure Itseotle HAS a rotation they've tried and happened to notice, by...breaking down the parse...that their rotation wasn't quite the same as Paper's.

Hence the question about the rotation to compare to their own...in the forum where warriors should feel comfortable going to to solicit feedback/advice from other warriors.

This isn't ElitistJerks.

[The.Yield]

*exhausted from reading the inane back and forth*

Why can't our Dev just give us a thematic run down of each soul's intention - then go skill by skill and decide if it's A) Useful for PVE; B) Useful for PVP; C) Neither and must be retooled/replaced?

Examples: (Higher up in the tree you go the better it gets)

Champ -> Should be our best AOE w/ a bit less in the way of ST. 2H Required but synergy still present for hybrids

Paragon -> Should be our best ST w/ a bit less in the way of AOE. DW Required but synergy still present for hybrids

Riftblade - > A balanced DPS soul w/ nice combat utility. 2H or DW as desired - Highly synergistic.

Beastmaster -> A balanced DPS soul w/ UNIQUE and UNIVERSALLY STACKING raid buffs that are triggered via combative actions and must be maintained as such. Coordinated with Mage and Rogue devs to figure out a game plan between the support souls.

DONE.

Not fantastic examples but you get the idea. Then do the same with Tanking souls - root out those horrible dead space abilities like Rift Tap and the like.

[Itseotle]

Hence the question about the rotation to compare to their own...in the forum where warriors should feel comfortable going to to solicit feedback/advice from other warriors.

This isn't ElitistJerks.

Exactly. Not like I asked "so whats top DPS spec? Feed me souls rotations and buffs now!"

[Steelwind]

Atrius has been quite lately. Hopefully he's thinking of a solution for Champ synergy.

[PFalcon]

Get the it's-my-secret-rotation-figure-it-out-yourself nonsense out of here. We don't have time to be keeping secret rotations from people here and posturing like that. A tester is a freaking tester. Give them the spec and the rotation that's doing the best.

I'm testing the RB going:

Builder:
#show searing strike
suppressmacrofailures
cast rift strike
cast frost strike
cast searing strike
cast frenzied strike

Finish:
#show fiery burst
cast rift storm
cast Fiery Burst
Cast Earth Burst
Cast Icy Burst
cast frenzied strike

Build->Build->Fever->Finish (Fiery Burst)
Build->Build->Build->Finish (Earth Burst)
Build->Build->Build->Finish (Scald + Icy Burst)
Build->Build->Fever->Finish (Scald + Icy Burst)
Build->Build->Build->Finish (Fiery Burst)

Repeating. Fevers and fiery bursts end up staggering i think.

I'm letting the last tic of Blood fever fall off before reapplying. If you reapply it at 1s you lose the last tic of it. Not sure if that is the best placement of fever.

[mattya802]

Whats the build/orotation for the 42/32/2? I only used blood fever to refresh the dot as it (for me) does less damage than unbuffed searing strike, but the posted parse shows a lot more hits.

Each tick of the Blood Fever DoT counts. He's not using it as often as Searing Strike, it's used just to refresh the DoT.

[paper]

Whats the build/orotation for the 42/32/2? I only used blood fever to refresh the dot as it (for me) does less damage than unbuffed searing strike, but the posted parse shows a lot more hits.

Refreshed blood fever after the dot fell off. ACT records dot tics + the initial hit for # of hits.

[batou079]

Oh goody, dot management is fun!

That is why i hated Beastmaster... >_>"
oh well. I like how you are all being very creative to maximize builds at least!